Discussion in 'DEALS, DEALS, DEALS!' started by Fry777, Mar 12, 2019.
Just add Vocalise 2 dammit
I've been disappointed in Vocalise 2 compared to Vocalise 1, which I like quite a lot. I haven't been able to articulate why.
How much is the upgrade price ?
$299 from Essentials
this is interesting. I get Scoring Guitars 2, not Vocalise 2.
I'm hoping they put DM-307, Novo & Forzo on sale. This would make for a nice Sound Designing bundle, but 50% off will due.
I'm jumping the gun, but anyone familiar with both DM-307 & Konkrete from Soniccouture care to give a brief comparison? Is there much overlap?
I've been wanting these 3 for a while. Only price has held me off from Novo & Forzo. Though DM-307 seems to provide a lot of sounds I've desired all in one plugin, it seems to lack some versatility I've become accustomed to with other drum plugins. Mapping, layering & routing options don't seem to be what this plugin is about, similar to Konkrete.
This was posted few times when I purchased Vocalize 2 _ ON SALE _ so expectations were set properly.
Already enjoying Scoring Guitars. Now wondering similar thing about Scoring Guitars 2.
Will appreciate helpful comments from Scoring Guitars 1 & 2 aficionados.
Have both and Konkrete is more electronic buzzes and clicks (kind of in the fashion of music concrete of the early synth days its named after). Cool sounds, but listen to the video walkthrough to get an idea of what I’m talking about. They are all non-traditional electronic drum sounds that are unique.
DM-307 is a much larger collection of electronic drums, acoustic drums, and processed drums all together, laid out in kits they designed, or as instruments across the keyboard (all the snares or all the hats, etc). It does have a lot in it, and much of it sounds good and very produced. But I have always had trouble loading the nki’s. Although I’ve tried to fix this many times it will still sometimes load with no skin- meaning all the raw sliders and buttons come up on a grey backgound with no labeling. Basically unusable. I can reload it and sometimes get it to load properly, but more than once I’ve given up and gone to something else. I’ve tried all the tricks including a patch resave and updating kontakt (from 5.51 through 5.81).
Check to see if either of these still have sync to host issues they had when they were released. I’m hoping they’ve fixed this, but orginally none of the loops synced to tempo, which is a big problem. I don’t own them to know if it’s been updated, the sounds, again, seem overprocessed and turn into a wash easily.
I’m with Guy, if Gravity can’t be made drier, it’s a serious negative when going to mix.
FWIW the price is at 50% off, same as their half price sale they do (in the summer?) so besides the bigger priced items that have not been this cheap (Gravity, Novo, Forzo) it may not be anything new price-wise. I’m waiting to see if Novo will go below 50% off like gravity, but considering the recent sale of essentials and the upgrade price, I expect them to leave it out of the sale and wait until the next 50% off sale. So I suppose I will be waiting too.
Great timing post and I would likely have jumped on DM-307 if offered in this promo.
I'm on Win10 Pro /Reaper and wonder if you are on iOS / Logic, Cubase, etc., which may be impacting these issues ??
I don’t think the DAW is the issue since all my other thousands (yes, I’ve gotten that far) of instruments load fine. But I would bet I just need to look deeper into why the resource file (which contains the skins) is not loading properly. Most likely this is only my issue, since there would be a massive outcry and fix if it were across the board. I just never have time to look into it.
Otherwise the DM-307 has a lot of good stuff if you don’t mind your drums in Kontakt. There is so much more I can do with Addictive drums 2, that I’m now trying to stick to that whenever possible. But for big electronic drum sounds, pop drum sounds, or urban/hybrid drums the DM-307 does sound great. At half price (it may be in this sale) it is worth it (I got it half price at a sale a while back, so perhaps it will go lower).
This is only a Gravity/Gravity pack flash sale. The remaining products will be
1) Vocalise 2
2) Scoring Guitars 1
3) Vocalise 1
4) Natural Forces
You have a sharp eye! I think you're right, that's what the out of focus shots look like.
I see, thanks, great explanation. It's tempting with the sale, but I have a feeling I would maybe regret it in the long term, as I have more important, other things to get now, and I dont know how much I would actually use it.
I agree regarding Konkrete. Thogh there are kicks & snares in every kit, my limited use has been with the unique percussion sounds.
DM-307 definitely seems to deliver much more of the sounds I'm looking for. But can you, or anyone, speak to the features, specifically related to layering kit pieces, routing individual kit piece audio to a DAW and any re-mapping of kit pieces to different keys? Also, can patterns be exported from the grid? This instrument doesn't appear to be built around THAT type of flexibility.
I'm getting the feeling that I'd love the sound but would have to do a lot of re-sampling to get the custom kits, routing flexibility and kit piece layout I'd want.
Interested in Natural Forces if that gets added, worth picking up?
THX for clarifying! With AD2, LADD, NI_K11U, Drum Fury, Rhapsody: Cinematic Percussion __ I'm likely covered.
Ahh, well my questions are now irrelevant. Thanks!
Yeah, at least from what I see in vids & manual, DM-307 doesn't provide some features I've become accustomed to with AD2. With DM-307 not being part of the sale, I'll direct my hopes to XLN Audio producing more electronic & hybrid kits.
Luckily a lot of AD2's kits are great, even the electronic kit is worth looking into, though they are mostly 80-90's sounds, nothing modern. But I expect them to get into Orch Perc and Urban kits next (like Superior Drums is doing), which could get me to leave Kontakt Perc even though I have a lot of it (CinePerc, APE, Rhasody, LADD, HZ Perc, Auddict Drums, Etc).
AD2 just has a fantastic Midi loop player/editor, plus full mix (or unmix) capabilities. That combined with their dozens of presets for each kit makes working in AD2 much more of a pleasure than anything else.
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