A question that's comes up in various forms on various threads often phrased as Heavocity's Intimate textures' vs the Spitfire Olafur Evo, Orchestral swarm LSO etc.
The understanding I've come to in a general comparison is that the Spitfire libraries (and now Time Macro) are orchestral libraries, and while they might also occasionally find use in more hybrid, sound design focused work, then really fundamntally work as orchestral libraries in fully orchestral - if not necessarily 'high classical' - composition.
But there's a variant of this question that I think has its own particular subtitles that I though might merit a more focused thread - particularly for someone like my self who already has the Spitfire libraries.
Which is: what's the value of Intimate Textures for orchestral ( or neo-classical or indy-classical, or nuanced-classical, or whatever you'd like to call it), non-hybrid compositions?
Lovely as the Heavocity demos are, they're all firmly hybrid world. I have a number of gravity packs and they're wonderful sound design libraries, but the focus is very much on sound design. Which is how I originally convinced myself that I didn't really need this.
But then @johnbusbymusic on this thread:
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/agitato-sordino-legatos-november.75220/
Posted this piece (and its equally brilliant sequel):
Which makes very convincing, highly textural, but I think still unequivocally orchestral (as opposed to hybrid) use of this library. I suppose you could argue that this sits on the edge of sound design/hybrid on some technical level, but I'd argue (subjectively of course) that the overall emotional effect resides firmly within the orchestral realm.
It's not that IT would ever replace, for instance, the Olafur evos for me. But it is doing something unique here, and it's a subtle enough effect that I don't think you could ever quite replicate with the more orchestral-focused spitfire libraries.
If nothing else there's something really interesting here that I'd like to get a better sense of.
So wondering if anyone else has any experience in orchestral, non-hybrid use of IT? If other such examples IT as orchestral instrument exists, it might be fun to collect references to them on a single thread.
The understanding I've come to in a general comparison is that the Spitfire libraries (and now Time Macro) are orchestral libraries, and while they might also occasionally find use in more hybrid, sound design focused work, then really fundamntally work as orchestral libraries in fully orchestral - if not necessarily 'high classical' - composition.
But there's a variant of this question that I think has its own particular subtitles that I though might merit a more focused thread - particularly for someone like my self who already has the Spitfire libraries.
Which is: what's the value of Intimate Textures for orchestral ( or neo-classical or indy-classical, or nuanced-classical, or whatever you'd like to call it), non-hybrid compositions?
Lovely as the Heavocity demos are, they're all firmly hybrid world. I have a number of gravity packs and they're wonderful sound design libraries, but the focus is very much on sound design. Which is how I originally convinced myself that I didn't really need this.
But then @johnbusbymusic on this thread:
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/agitato-sordino-legatos-november.75220/
Posted this piece (and its equally brilliant sequel):
Which makes very convincing, highly textural, but I think still unequivocally orchestral (as opposed to hybrid) use of this library. I suppose you could argue that this sits on the edge of sound design/hybrid on some technical level, but I'd argue (subjectively of course) that the overall emotional effect resides firmly within the orchestral realm.
It's not that IT would ever replace, for instance, the Olafur evos for me. But it is doing something unique here, and it's a subtle enough effect that I don't think you could ever quite replicate with the more orchestral-focused spitfire libraries.
If nothing else there's something really interesting here that I'd like to get a better sense of.
So wondering if anyone else has any experience in orchestral, non-hybrid use of IT? If other such examples IT as orchestral instrument exists, it might be fun to collect references to them on a single thread.