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Has anyone experienced the supernatural?

cygnusdei

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Like the title says, I'm curious to hear your personal, first-person experience. As for me, I can't say that I have, although I want to keep an open mind. If spirits etc. exist, they must operate on a wavelength/plane removed from mine, that I lack the ability to sense them.
 

PeterN

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Supernatural - think of the term.

Ask the Burmese, its all natural. Or in Africa.

You are grown in Western society to think in a certain way, to perceive in a certain way and to communicate in a certain way. My experience is, you have to break out of your culture to start to find things that are "supernatural". Learn a language too that perceives the reality differently than English language. Its a long road to new insight, most will not have the time for it. Or let alone be open to it. The world is messed up anyway.
 

Fidelity

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Having an "open mind" in the era of psychiatry is just foolish. You do you, but maybe don't suggest other people line themselves up for the loony bin?
 

FinGael

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Most of my life, since my very early childhood. To me it does not contradict with the scientific view of the world of today. In my personal experience it is more like that life to me is so much more than what science today is able to comprehend, but I think that someday it will catch up with these things and is able to research, validate and prove them to the scientific community.

As one can expect I also have encountered lots of degrading talk, attitude and anger regarding these things, which I practically don't mind, because one can use logical reasoning also with the immaterial planes (from a scientific point of view) of existence, and when you have decades of experience with those you have formed a pretty solid understanding of how many things work - although science today says that they are nonexistent.

(I have never done drugs (or even tested them) or been diagnosed with mental problems and I have in many occasions been open with how I have experienced things).
 
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cygnusdei

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Most of my life, since my very early childhood. To me it does not contradict with the scientific view of the world of today. In my personal experience it is more like that life to me is so much more than what science today is able to comprehend, but I think that someday it will catch up with these things and is able to research, validate and prove them to the scientific community.

As one can expect I also have encountered lots of degrading talk, attitude and anger regarding these things, which I practically don't mind, because one can use logical reasoning also with the immaterial planes (from a scientific point of view) of existence, and when you have decades of experience with those you have formed a pretty solid understanding of how many things work - although science today says that they are nonexistent.

(I have never done drugs (or even tested them) or been diagnosed with mental problems annd I have in many occasions been open with how I have experienced things).
This reminds me of a 1997 film Photographing Fairies, that touches on psychotropic drug and "spiritual epiphany" connection, which is a real thing (as others mentioned), and fraud, which is equally real. But absent incentives like money or fame, then there is no reason for fraud. In other words, your words carry more weight than say someone selling a book or practicing seances.
 

3DC

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As a child I would often dream in my sleep things that would happen to me years and sometimes decades into the future.

Karma perhaps? Deja Vu? 4th Dimension? Alternate universe?
Who knows? :confused::eek:

However this "mutant power" annoys me as I never saw in my dream, even for once, the wining combination for lottery ticket. :rolleyes:
 

FinGael

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Having an "open mind" in the era of psychiatry is just foolish. You do you, but maybe don't suggest other people line themselves up for the loony bin?
I don't know if you are serious or not - both are fine, but a thought, or a mental picture, arose from that.

There is a house, which has several rooms. In one of the rooms there is a person, who has for some unknown reasons decided that there is no such thing as a door, and who has spent all of his/her life in that room.

How can one find his/her way out of the room? One could say that just opening the door and walking out, but what if thoughts alter his/her perceptions, which makes him/her not able to see the door? Do the other rooms of that house exist?

One could always say that it is nonsense that our choices alter our perceptions, but you can see it in everyday life; someone who is heavily occupied with his/her mind (or a cell phone) is able to observe or pick up a lot less phenomena of his/her surroundings, when compared to someone who has an ability to be able to be present (in the present moment) and/or in a so called flow state.

In my experience this works also on a bigger scale. From early childhood we have been conditioned to view things, act and think in certain ways and it has a great effect on how we see, hear, sense and experience the reality. In my personal experience a human being is a very sophisticated and highly sensitive instrument and a receiver and there are a lot of reasons why with the majority most of the system has been turned off or has never been properly tuned or switched on.
 
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AudioLoco

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I don't know if you are serious or not - both are fine, but a thought, or a mental picture, arose from that.

There is a house, which has several rooms. In one of the rooms there is a person, who has for some unknown reasons decided that there is no such thing as a door, and who has spent all of his/her life in that room.

How can one find his/her way out of the room? One could say that just opening the door and walking out, but what if thoughts alter his/her perceptions, which makes him/her not able to see the door? Do the other rooms of that house exist?

One could always say that it is nonsense that our choices alter our perceptions, but one can even see it in everyday life; the perceptions of someone who is heavily occupied with his/her mind (or a cell phone) is able to observe or pick up a lot less phenomena of his/her surroundings, when compared to someone who has an ability to be able to be present (in the present moment) and/or in a so called flow state.

In my experience this work also in bigger scale. From early childhood we have been conditioned to view things, act and think in certain ways and it has a great effect on how we see, hear, sense and experience the reality. In my personal experience a human being is a very sophisticated and highly sensitive instrument and a receiver and there are a lot of reasons why with the majority most of the system has been turned off or has never been properly tuned or switched on.
erm... you mean Plato's Cave from 2500 years ago... or also the Matrix from the 1990s :)...

Every single super natural explanation not involving a provable or un-provable invisible superior being has been debunked and thrown away to the dustbins of human history.
 

Gerbil

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I had an out-of-body experience when I was young. It wasn't at all alarming; I was just staring down at myself asleep in a hospital bed. I could see the nurse in the ward and the two other patients, although I'd not met them as one of the curtains was drawn. When I did get to see them they were the same. My conclusion is that I must have already seen them at some point. But maybe not...

What I try to do is keep an open mind about such things. I have aspergers so the way I perceive things is a bit left-of-centre anyway. I miss things in the natural world that most see clearly. If there were ghosts and the like then it would merely be another mystery to add to the list!
 

FinGael

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erm... you mean Plato's Cave from 2500 years ago... or also the Matrix from the 1990s :)...

Every single super natural explanation not involving a provable or un-provable invisible superior being has been debunked and thrown away to the dustbins of human history.
There are a myriad of reasons why countless phenomena that are being labeled as supernatural are nearly impossible to reproduce in conditions that science has determined to use when trying to validate or debunk them. To dive into that dilemma is a bigger rabbit hole than most could imagine.

I am pretty sure that if I was given ten years exclusively with you, you would understand this dilemma quite profoundly through your own experiences. Unfortunately I don't think we have that possibility and I have to be content with the option where science determines and the majority is being used as the court to rule the verdict: I am a fool and that is wrong, delusional and illogical thinking, because it has not been scientifically proved and approved.

Fortunately there is no reason to worry. I have experienced these things every day and night for over the last fifteen years, I am ok with all this and your opinion or view about these things is fine and the right one for you.
 
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cygnusdei

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I don't know if you are serious or not - both are fine, but a thought, or a mental picture, arose from that.

There is a house, which has several rooms. In one of the rooms there is a person, who has for some unknown reasons decided that there is no such thing as a door, and who has spent all of his/her life in that room.

How can one find his/her way out of the room? One could say that just opening the door and walking out, but what if thoughts alter his/her perceptions, which makes him/her not able to see the door? Do the other rooms of that house exist?

One could always say that it is nonsense that our choices alter our perceptions, but you can see it in everyday life; someone who is heavily occupied with his/her mind (or a cell phone) is able to observe or pick up a lot less phenomena of his/her surroundings, when compared to someone who has an ability to be able to be present (in the present moment) and/or in a so called flow state.

In my experience this work also on a bigger scale. From early childhood we have been conditioned to view things, act and think in certain ways and it has a great effect on how we see, hear, sense and experience the reality. In my personal experience a human being is a very sophisticated and highly sensitive instrument and a receiver and there are a lot of reasons why with the majority most of the system has been turned off or has never been properly tuned or switched on.
What you're saying makes sense, but by the pronounced rarity of supernaturally inclined individuals, maybe there is a simpler explanation. Consider color blindness - it's hereditary and pretty rare (8% for males, 0.5% for females). For color blind people, no matter how you try to describe that strawberries are red and celery is green, they will never comprehend it, as they lack the sense to do so. Maybe with spiritualism (?) it's similar but opposite - most people simply lack the "sixth sense", only a few do, and it's been said that it's hereditary.
 

FinGael

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What you're saying makes sense, but by the pronounced rarity of supernaturally inclined individuals, maybe there is a simpler explanation. Consider color blindness - it's hereditary and pretty rare (8% for males, 0.5% for females). For color blind people, no matter how you try to describe that strawberries are red and celery is green, they will never comprehend it, as they lack the sense to do so. Maybe with spiritualism (?) it's similar but opposite - most people simply lack the "sixth sense", only a few do, and it's been said that it's hereditary.
Thank you for your thoughts.

My personal experience is that it is partially a cultural thing and conditioning is the most important deciding factor when it comes to this. Genes play a part and in my experience the person's incarnation history has a role; in my experience I see us as ageless beings who incarnate here many times in these body suits to develop the soul, or what term you want to use in that context.

There is a part that dissolves in death and there is another part that stays and integrates with the timeless being, which evolves and develops through the experiences that come from living here in this physical, human form. In my journey I went through a phase where I suddenly remembered a lot of my past lives and events that were significant in larger context and how they were connected with different lives and the life that I am living now.

In average I think that humans carry quite a potential in themselves regarding these things. One has to unlearn what he/she has learned to get rid of the conditioning and start to develop a deeper relationship to self; who am I, what am I and learn to silence the constant, compulsive thinking, which is making it difficult for the consciousness to tune to anything outside the mind or the ego of that person.

During the years I have taught or guided a bunch of individuals privately (for free) and found out that there are lot of resources and potential in a normal human being. I'd like to emphasize that in that I have concentrated of gettind rid of the obstacles, not to make people think or experience life like me. A sovereign human being is well capable of forming his/her own thoughts and views about things.
 
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Crowe

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I have not and I do not 'believe' in anything that is not scientifically observable. There are many, many things that have been proven to be real that I have little to no knowledge of and I do not need the billions upon billions of 'unprovable possibilities' diluting reality any further.

Give me proof and I'll adjust my world view accordingly, as I must. Such is the fate of one who subscribes to science.

If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out.

EDIT: I say this having been raised catholic and having spent most of my teen years 'studying' demonology and myriad religions, as an edgy teen goth is supposed to. Even tried my hand at Wiccanism for a year of so. I truly believed for a while but eventually the lack of observable truth just killed it. That, and the cases of borderline insanity such beliefs wreaked on some of my acqaintances made me realize blind faith is dangerous as hell.
 
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R. Soul

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It's funny in this day and age when everyone has there camera running 24/7, and 12.000 hours of videos are uploaded to YouTube daily, that the most convincing video's showing supernatural phenomenas are either fake or can be explained otherwise.

The human mind play tricks on us, and we are often convinced of a vision of sorts, but plenty of things can cause this, like sleep paralysis, pareidolia, electromagnetic fields, carbon monoxide poisoning etc.
 

Stringtree

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Psychedelics thirty years ago. What has been seen cannot be unseen. I took notes, and the most interesting one still to this day:

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In words, "*" exists conditionally within a multitude of qualifying and mitigating circumstances, and the alteration of any component changes the nature and disposition of "*" as to make "*" not "*" but something else.

Don't do drugs, kids. Or do. I just wouldn't visit that on my mind again. Outside of those experiences, the world is unpredictable and weird, but I'm not holding out for any of the stuff I believed as a teenager.
 
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