No, an echo chamber is exactly what I meant. What you are referring to is called a hug box.To quote from a nice article: http://bokardo.com/principles-of-user-interface-design/
"Clarity is job #1
Clarity is the first and most important job of any interface. To be effective using an interface you've designed, people must be able to recognize what it is, care about why they would use it, understand what the interface is helping them interact with, predict what will happen when they use it, and then successfully interact with it. While there is room for mystery and delayed gratification in interfaces, there is no room for confusion. Clarity inspires confidence and leads to further use. One hundred clear screens is preferable to a single cluttered one."
Also I think you misunderstand what an echo chamber is. Thats when lots of people who all have the same opinion talk about that subject then just agree with each other without a dissenting voice. What you are referencing is my tenacity to make sure what I am saying is not being misrepresented by responding to any post or comment that didn't get what I was saying or implying I said something other than I did. I am just debating the point, I have conseeded on some things (if you care to read) and am trying to find middle ground with everyone involved.
And to your other point no I am not spiteful towards companies that don't send me NFR's, there are many companies who don't want to deal with my honesty but I still talk about their libraries and we have good honest discourse. Something I am all for!
If you really want to have the conversation about brands again send me a PM or go read the pages where I explain all about brands, public perception of them and how they can be interpreted. For example because it was called Hans Zimmer Strings I thought that was going to somehow sound like Hans Zimmer...or at least the Hans Zimmer I know. But I admitted that was my misunderstanding nd going forward I know that Hans Zimmer on Spitfire product doesnt mean it will sound like Hans Zimmer. You see we moved forward on a subject though civil discourse.
Haha haven't you seen me debating here???, haven't you seen me countless times call people and companies out for things I disagree with??? how can that be considered 'retiring to my safe space' ....It sounds like you may have been spending too much time indulging yourself in 'Facebook Political Debates' its all name calling and anger with you isnt it XD
And mate...for this kind of product I am the average Joe....no one who doesnt work in the audio field is impulse buying Hans Zimmer Strings out of the blue. So I am their audience, a composer. There are no composers out there who know every single aspect of every single product they own for their work so to say I am any less professional because I happen to not get every aspect of every library ever delivered to me is a bit of a stretch.
I do know my libraries pretty well, I work without a template and I know what does what. I have done in depth overviews of quite a few libraries by this point so you can see the level to which I dig into them. I also make them so I have a fair idea how they work too. I have spent time looking into and discussing things like UI design, human psychology and the ways people interact with things both visually and sonically...its something of a hobby for me. So knowing how deep I dive into libraries and the things I have learned about the way customers interact with UI's from both a developer and customer side.... I genuinely do believe that if I missed something in one of the many overviews I have done it is more the fault of the UI for not making it clear what I should do to make something work than it is me just being amateur.
Your whole post seems like its coming from pure anger rather than actually wanting to have a rational chat about any of this. There is a thread which is over 20 pages and I have a video of over 5 hours. If you don't get my position by now thats on you mate. If you don't like what I say or the way I do them, don't keep watching me. You really don't have to if it causes you so much angst. Like I say, I am free to do these things how I want to, and I present them as fair open and honest as I can. If you disagree with a point thats fine, but I don't have to agree with your disagreement.
I feel I am doing my bit to help the community! I jump in and help out where its relevant, I do composition livestreams an hours and hours of sample library reviews/vlogs/interviews on Youtube. What are you contributing? because if you are implying I don't care about helping the community you are very wrong mate. Life would be much more relaxing if I didn't care about composing and composers so much xD (I'd definitely sleep more)
Also don't get all aggressive and then scream mob mentality. There are plenty of people on both sides of these healthy debates. Don't start crying victim just to stop people talking.
So for the sake of transparency:
You spamming the forum and spreading FUD for weeks = the hero this community needs.
Me pointing out your questionable behavior = angry and irrational.
Paul pointing out your questionable behavior = passive aggressive.
John pointing out your questionable behavior = misjudging you as a person.
Curious how you are ok with putting others under the microscope but can't take a little critique yourself. No one is angry at you. Come on Daniel, lose the argument, not the person.
There's a big difference between not getting every aspect of a library and overlooking some basic features, then blaming the developer. My "bottle" argument, that you chose to ignore, is the perfect example of your lack of commitment and biased approach. Even with your casual "first look" format, I think you should show some professional courtesy and put a little effort in it, otherwise you will be just another kid on Youtube banging keys and making fart jokes. This goes beyond your expectations and the instant gratification aspect of a new library. It's about being fair to your peers. Yes, even those who don't give you NFRs.
Bugs are an unfortunate aspect of every software development. One should judge a company on how they handle such issues. That's common sense. I bet you had your share of bug reports with HybridTwo, so you should know better. During the weeks prior to release, you were very vocal about your concerns regarding the new player and subtly tried to draw a connection between HZS and EastWest's Play initial state, lacking any sort of evidence or basis for critical thinking. FUD 101 right there.
You talk about accountability but you should also be accountable for what you spread around the web. It only takes a few misinformations repeated dozens of times (!!!) to create the illusion of truth. And that could seriously hurt Spitfire in the long run. The Eric Whitacre choir is just around the corner. Again, those guys are not corporate assholes deliberately trying to screw us, they are one of us, hard working composers. Yes we give our money to them and yes they should deliver, but you are blowing things way out of proportion to fit your agenda. I hope you are enjoying the free traffic.
To sum it up, here's a video of someone who chose to create something out of nothing, released one day after your "first look" went live. Same tools, same time frame. I'll let the video do the talking: