EWC vs Dominus vs Insolidus

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by erikradbo, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. erikradbo

    erikradbo Senior Member

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    A last minute attempt to get your compositions with Insolidus or Dominus in similar style to EWC. Being the last day of the intro price, it still seems quite limited but with a great nordic sound. To make a more informed decision, let's hear your master pieces with Insolidus or Dominus. Can they sound similar to EWC?
     
  2. Henu

    Henu Senior Member

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    What the hell is this "nordic sound" everyone keeps raving about?
     
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  3. paoling

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    I am obviously biased, but can I begin with something that I consider a truly masterpiece? This is the pre-alpha music for Prey of Gods by Ian Dorsch. He will record it will a live choir, so it will be interesting to see the differences in the final live version. (sounds quite nordic to me also :D)



    (By the way this is Dominus :-P)
     
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  4. Henu

    Henu Senior Member

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    Note to self: Sell all your music gear and start driving a garbage truck. Game over man, game over.
     
  5. Scamper

    Scamper Senior Member

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    Yep, it's great. When I was choosing a choir library last week, the others being on sale, this track pushed me to definitely get Dominus at the next best chance.
     
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  6. Mason

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    I'm from the Nordic countries and have no idea. Must be some kind of Nordic fairytale-sound :)
     
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  7. Kony

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    Wow! Love this - Dominus is an amazing library and I definitely need to spend more time with it :)
     
  8. Bill the Lesser

    Bill the Lesser Senior Member

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    I would add that's Dominus pretty much right out of the box. It's just an incredible sound, IMHO the best choir library I've ever used.

    IMHO Insolidus simply can't compete, unless there is something specific about the arcs that you could use. It's not at all playable in the way Dominus is, and it requires a big dose of reverb to cover issues with releases and a generally very "distant" kind of sound. Dominus sounds amazing with no reverb at all, and fattens up beautifully with just a touch of reverb.

    EWC is somewhat off to one side. Extremely beautiful sound and very playable, but also rather special case. EWC exploits the famous Lyndhurst space with good effect and sounds terrific with no extra reverb, yet the close mics are as dry as anybody would need. FWIW it layers with Dominus quite nicely somewhat like Orchestral Swarm layers with normal libraries, adding a certain kind of texture.

    If I could chose one, it would be Dominus for both beauty of sound and general usefulness. Saving my money for Dominus 2.
     
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  9. sostenuto

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    In terms of Choral libraries, I am not much past being 'a kid in a candy store', but the several Threads on VI-C have helped immensely. :barefoot:

    I have not agonized more over a Choir purchase than Insolidus (recently). Cannot write a useful word about why, but eventually decided to hope for a massive sale for Dominus at BlkFri.
    Sooo many positives for EWC, but even at generous Intro price …. still feels iffy.

    Strongest personal alternative is Genesis. No clue how choral wizards could tweak, but still holding out for something to support my naive' leanings …… :speechless:
     
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    erikradbo Senior Member

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    Well, often a hollow and "cold" sounding arrangement, usually in minor for the major part (drum roll please). Case study:
     
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    erikradbo Senior Member

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    Thanks! Seeing the walkthroughs I'm more impressed with Dominus, however, listening to some demos, Insolidus has a more direct sound (Dominus seems to be wetter and more choral).

    Insolidus:
    Dominus (I think):

    Both sound great, but Dominus is...just more choral. Great for that, but feels less intimate (and...NORDIC :dancedance:). Prove me wrong, please.
     
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    erikradbo Senior Member

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    Shame on you!
     
  13. AllanH

    AllanH Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what this nordic thing is either :) For something Nordic, I'd suggest the Peer Gynt suite by Grieg or anything by Carl Nielsen.

    I chose to not get Spitfire's EWC, but that with that: My two favorite choirs in terms of flexibility is Genesis and Dominus, with Dominus being the most flexible. In terms of sound, my favorites are Dominus, Genesis and Insolidus, probably in that order.

    Re Dominus and choral: the built-in reverb is a key factor in the out-of-box sound. Pick a non-cathedral reverb for a cleaner sound. This makes a huge difference.
     
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    Btw, having you on the line, what's the latest on Dominus 2?
     
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    Being made around Milan, for us Italians Dominus is quite Nordic!

    Paolo
     
  16. William Palmer

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    Been following this game a bit and was thinking, "wouldn't Dominus be perfect for composing this kind of music?...". That explains that :D
     
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  17. Mason

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    The “Nordic sound” is probably just a fashion word that doesn’t mean much. Most of the music from the Nordic country is not in the style that some people would call Nordic, and more often I find it to rather sound Eastern European.

    The EWC sounds British to me.
     
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    johnbusbymusic Musician/Composer

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    in my opinion, i think Insolidus has it's place for sure.
    Has it got it's limitations, of course.
    it's a very niche library and if you have a particular need for what it does it's gravy!

    If 8dio has another sale as good as the one from last week, i can highly recommend this.
    That said, i would not pay $598 for this choir or any choir - i'm all about that sale!

    Currently i'm working on an epic piece using Insolidus with Oceania and so far it's sounding pretty seamless.
    i'm a happy customer :)
     
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