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Eric Whitacre Choir

JEPA

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I have to say in my humble opinion this is the BEST concept library yet of Spitfire Audio from what i hear from the demos. This is choir postmodern sound to my ears. Bravo! Really nice! Must start to save pennies...

i have only one question: no shorts at all? Missed them on the specs.. or am i blind?
 

Bill the Lesser

Active Member
Sounds great for atmosphere composers. But I couldn't help but notice legatos were glossed over fairly quickly and were not very impressive. I feel like with the release of their studio strings, Spitfire is gravitating away from industry leading legatos and going more towards atmosphere/sound design tools which seem to be the bulk of their demos.
IMHO, string-like "legato" is not that important with choirs. Except maybe for "melisma" which is portamento on a held sound, sometimes rather extreme as is possible in Genesis. What matters (to my tastes) is what the transitions are like, and from what little I've heard they seem to have nailed it.

But yes, the whole industry is moving toward some vaguely "cinematic" concept that favors atmosphere/sound design as you aptly put it. I think the vision that is being cultivated among amateur users (where I put myself) is increasingly one of writing media scores and trailers, rather than symphonic-like things. The pros have long since had their main tools in place, it's primarily us newbies who are squirrel caging the sales machines now.

To climb down the cynical ladder a couple rungs, I do think EWC and most recent Spitfire releases still hold to a refreshingly pro standard, while being of genuine interest to the rest of us. Keep it up Spitfire, luv ya!

PS, anybody need some cool loops...?
 
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Bill the Lesser

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Wow. And you know, I’m loving the graphics of this - the deserts and the talk of open skies and large spaces and the warm colour palettes.
Hah, I live under open skies in warm palettes in New Mexico's high desert at alpine elevations. While it is my chosen location, I find the English countryside exceptionally beautiful and would love to photograph there. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, sometimes literally.

Have to admit I'm still scratching my head a little on the Mojave paradigm, but OK...
 
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ka00

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Wow. And you know, I’m loving the graphics of this - the deserts and the talk of open skies and large spaces and the warm colour palettes.
And I just noticed the banners with the wind turbines. As in the power of air. Things that spin, as in revolutions/evolutions. Great visual execution indeed.
 
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Vastman

we make the future
I've been away so maybe I missed something but why wasn't this posted in the commercial forum?
 

Virtuoso

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Meh. 4 1/2 hours later it's not even at 25%. Still crawling along at 22Mbps. I paused and ran a separate download test and got 768Mbps, so it's not the fault of the line. Is anyone else seeing better speeds?

I don't know whether they need to recode the app for multithreaded downloads (like Continuata) or just get a better hosting provider, but this is pathetic given the huge size of the libraries!
 

Paul Cardon

Ninja Otter Music
Meh. 4 1/2 hours later it's not even at 25%. Still crawling along at 22Mbps. I paused and ran a separate download test and got 768Mbps, so it's not the fault of the line. Is anyone else seeing better speeds?

I don't know whether they need to recode the app for multithreaded downloads (like Continuata) or just get a better hosting provider, but this is pathetic given the huge size of the libraries!
Could depend on your location! I believe Spitfire uses Amazon servers to distribute libraries, so you're not downloading directly from Spitfire. You'd be downloading from a distributed server much closer to your geographical location, and that specific one you're connected to could be the bottleneck.

EDITED: Yup, Spitfire uses Amazon's Cloudfront. Maybe an issue with your local Cloudfront connection/server?
 
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windyweekend

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Sorry I dont want to disturb the party, but what exactly for should I need another Ah/Ooh/Oh/MMM choir? I haven't heard yet anthing that outstanding

On the other Hand I wonder how different a that much more powerful like Hollywood Choir was received here and evoked here so much negative excitement.
Sorry but for me there are already great Choirs with and without any Wording available. (VSL has at least different consonants in addition to Ah and Uh and is excellent in its sound).
In short, I simply do not understand what Spitfires Choir-swells shall have that much outstanding.
Bet the others you and I have got aren’t recorded in Air Lyndhurst though. Throw this with your HZS and SSO and you’ve got the closest anyone’s ever going to have to the real sounding deal...
 

ka00

Senior Member
I've been away so maybe I missed something but why wasn't this posted in the commercial forum?
My guess is that Spitfire have changed their engagement strategy vis-a-vis vi-control after experiencing what they saw as unfair and ill-informed criticism of some recent releases and marketing techniques (announcements of announcements, flashing banners, etc.).

Happened around the same time Paul started his informative YouTube channel and Spitfire upped their output of educational videos. Again, my guess is that this is part of an effort to shift the community discussion to youtube as well as to help people get more out of the libraries and clear up some FUD.

Also, just guessing, but it reduces the temptation to try to defend your product from attack if there's no official thread that you are invested in and which feels like it needs protecting. Not only does no one win in those back and forths, it has the effect of putting your critics on the same playing field as you, regardless of anyone's actual credentials.
 
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windyweekend

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I don't either.

Word Builder impresses me as an innovation; but after struggling with it for 15 cues back when EWQLSC was released, I ultimately decided that—for me, at least—it was more trouble than it was worth. I realize the feature has improved a bit in more recent libraries; but I don't believe it's become a breeze to use, even now.

Of course, YMMV.

Best,

Geoff
I’m so glad they steered away from the word builder headache. Would have been a nightmare for them and us. Quality over Quantity is way more important in my book.
 

Virtuoso

Active Member
Could depend on your location! I believe Spitfire uses Amazon servers to distribute libraries, so you're not downloading directly from Spitfire. You'd be downloading from a distributed server much closer to your geographical location, and that specific one you're connected to could be the bottleneck.

EDITED: Yup, Spitfire uses Amazon's Cloudfront. Maybe an issue with your local Cloudfront connection/server?
I'm in Seattle - most of my clients are big tech companies. I do video production, so my internet traffic averages 2-3TB a month, much of which is to/from companies also using AWS, but the only developer I have these glacial speeds with is Spitfire. I have no idea why. With a decent hosting provider this library should take around 30 mins to download, but it's actually looking like it's going to be >20 hours.
 

Geoff Grace

Senior Member
My guess is that Spitfire has changed their engagement strategy vis-a-vis vi-control after experiencing what they saw as unfair and ill-informed criticism of some recent releases and marketing techniques (announcements of announcements, flashing banners, etc.).

Happened around the same time Paul started his informative YouTube channel and Spitfire upped their output of educational videos. Again, my guess is that this is part of an effort to shift the community discussion to youtube as well as to help people get more out of the libraries and clear up some FUD.

Also, just guessing, but it reduces the temptation to try to defend your product from attack if there's no official thread that you are invested in and which feels like needs protecting. Not only does no one win in those back and forths, it has the effect of putting your critics on the same playing field as you, regardless of anyone's actual credentials.
It certainly seems clear that Spitfire has decided to reduce—but not eliminate—its involvement here, while at the same time increasing its presence at YouTube.

Best,

Geoff
 

sostenuto

Big NKS Fan !
It certainly seems clear that Spitfire has decided to reduce—but not eliminate—its involvement here, while at the same time increasing its presence at YouTube.

Best,

Geoff
IMHO, this would be a shame, as well as push me further toward paying more attention to alternate sources. This is a very active and open Forum, which provides a steady flow of worldwide opinions and perspectives. YT is terrific for what is does well, but loss of Spitfire Audio here seems a large, net loss for SF.

Agree … was quite surprised to see initial post not made by SFA on COMMERCIAL Announcements. :notworthy:
 
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