Eq and compressor

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  1. AMAROK13

    AMAROK13 Senior Member

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    Your opinion on an EQ and a COMPRESSOR, having a sound quality equivalent to B2 excellence (Reverb),but for an EQ / COMPRESSOR.
     
  2. Sanlky

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    Which type of EQ or for what use?

    A great EQ but bit expensive only, DMG Equilibrium, worth every penny. You can use it for nearly.... everything. Clariphonic EQ is also awesome but just for high frecuencies. Pultecs are also super useful EQs, Softube Tube Tech 2 series are great, one of the best i tried.
    If you want a EQ with character.. depends on what you look for, any Neve/Api will add amount of color, an SSL channel strip will be little less intrussive and more versatile.

    Compressor... are you looking a classic hardware emulation(Fet, VCA, Opto or Varimu), or something like fabfilter Pro C? For mixbus... any 670 will do a great job used subtly, if you want an "economic" plugin which may help or be totally useful depending on situations, Focusrite Red compressor does a good job. If you want more compressors like "hey lets burn the master channel" or "lets work a bit on transient and general leveling on mixbus", Acquamarine from Acustica Audio can do your job(its pretty messy and not easy to use it, but it is great). Depends on what you like, and how will you use it. SSL mixbus type VCA compressor also can do the job quite well, not a big fan, but they do what they are supossed to.
     
  3. wst3

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    that is an awfully broad question, so I'll offer an awfully broad answer<G>... starting with you really need two types, emulations and modern designs unencumbered by emulation.

    For example, I really like Pultec style equalizers (I use the UA, but they all impart some extra flavor) as a classic. I also like Neve and API (especially the 10 band graphic) emulation. I still fall back to the Waves equalizers for something that doesn't try to be something old.

    Compressors are a little more complex, there are so many to model, but if you start with emulations of the UREI 1176 and LA2, and dBX 160 along with one of the SSL buss compressors and something from the Fairchild camp you'll have lots of options. For something a little more modern I like the Distressor, and again the Waves C4 is hard to beat.

    I wish they'd model the old Valley People Gain Brain and Altec compressors, and while I'm begging, the Valley People Maxi-Q would be a great addition too.

    It all depends on what it is you are trying to accomplish.
     
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    wst3 my office these days

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    If I were starting out today I'd go with FabFilter. My Waves collection dates back to the days of parallel port dongles, and I just can't rationalize buying another compressor at the moment. But yeah, the multi-band from FabFilter is pretty darned cool!
     
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    AMAROK13 Senior Member

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    Thank you for your answers.

    It's clear equilibrium is a killer, but, expensive too.

    But quality pays.

    I really love FabFilter products, I have two plug ins from home and it's pure happiness.

    I compose Trance / Edm, so an EQ / Compressor adapted for this kind of musical style would be my preference.

    It's true that the FabFilter Bundle is very interesting.

    I was just wondering, if there was not an Eq / Compressor really dedicated in a different brand.

    I presume that each brand has its specialty of the best Eq / Compressor.

    Regarding the Reverb, even if that of FabFilter is a must, that of 2CAUDIO is a UFO and a wealth of possibilities which seems infinite.
     
  7. gsilbers

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    Meh, eq and compressor are tools and have become very overrated due to extreme commercialism. That notion that you NEED a specific one.
    Write the name of every brand, put hose names up In a dart board and throw a dart to any. You will find tons of posts and top artists using that specific one and saying the best and also worst about them and any of them will be equally good to produce any music and get professional level results.
    If you think otherwise then YOU need to learn how to mix. Which of course is really the hardest part which take years and years to master.
     
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    AMAROK13 Senior Member

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    Your reflection is quite judicious.

    It is clear that we are often influenced by renowned artists who use this or that equipment and we aspire to have a copy of their tools.

    But here, my question is more general, it is not the most important to have a Reverb, Eq, Compressor 200 euros, if a plug ins to 50 euros can arrive at the same result.

    The is the meaning of my question of departure.

    It is also true that the most important thing is to learn how to mix, but on the other hand, everything ready to use can do a lot of good service.
     
  9. Sanlky

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    You can make outstanding mixes with your EQs and comes from your DAW. Pro Tools, Logic, are useful. Even DVerb from ProTools can sound awesome.
    Brandes or specific plug ins, like i want an 1176 compressor, so i would choose Waves Cla76 or UAD ones... you might be able to do with any software compressor what 1176 does, the only difference is with 1176 you will do it faster, cause you know how it works and which controls you will tweak.
    I Own Equilibrium, but most of the times i find myself using basic Logic EQ.. i know what i need to do and it does the job i need, period. Different Eqs might do the same, only the UI is different, others might also apply some saturation while EQing.. Equilibrium can do the job of many EQs, but lots of times if you want to "sound like" an specific EQ you need to add saturation or distortion. some compressors can do only 1 thing, like a DBX, they do only 1 job, but they do it in the way one expect it to do it, instead of grabbing a compressor, setting ratio, attack release, just adding a DBX for example is enough work, it does what it is supposed to do, you save time.
    Also, channel strips helps you work "faster" while mixing,they sometimes limit you, but those limitations makes you work different, when you are used to, they might be more efficient.
    For rock/pop albums, i use a lot channel strips. While mixing orchestra i mostly use Equilibrium(i like it, it can be cpu friendly or not..), and i already use a preset i made, tried also Pro Q2 but felt like everything i can do with Pro Q2 i can do it with Equilibrium(which i already own), and lot more, also i have my presets to start EQing, i am used to it, i can use it to add bright, lower unwanted frecs, add more bottom, work on mids, and mastering EQ. But for mixing large amount of tracks, sometimes logic EQ its just fine, i know i have to make a dip in 2.5khz with a narrow Q, i just do it, but Equilibrium sometimes might sound a tad better, and a Great River 32 eq (hw)might be able to do it even better(but lose recall and take more time exporting, so i prefer not to use hardware).
    As the previus example, if you know you need to make a dip of 3-5dbs on 2.5khz, you will do it with any eq... but if you need to make some instrument bright, i might choose the EQ, some can do a boost of 10, 15dbs, and remain unnoticeable, and others are too obvius and unnatural(for example clariphonic, you just move 1 knob and 1 or 2 switches and brightness is there).
     
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    AMAROK13 Senior Member

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    Thank you very much for your very comprehensive and detailed answer.

    I will look at all this. Wave products of very good quality and the Equilibrium is simply fantastic, as is the compassion of the same company.

    It is true that very often one seeks hyper sophisticated products and with prdouits quite simple and not always expensive, it is possible to do an excellent job.

    I'm thinking for example of products from Klanghelm, ToneBoosters and Tokyo Dawn Records,

    SkNote to name a few.

    Now there are so many possibility and not always the most expensive the best, that not always easy to

    make the right choice.
     

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