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Embertone Releases: Walker 1955 Steinway 'D'

jon wayne

Active Member
In case if anybody's interested in a first impression type of recording, here's one that I recorded a while ago. (Not the new Beta version). Once they iron out the issues, it should be considered one of the top piano libraries for sure.

I have been hesitant to upgrade to the full version because I’m not in love with the sound of lite. I saw this is the main mics. Should I be getting close to this sound with the lite?
 

SAM CA

Member
I have been hesitant to upgrade to the full version because I’m not in love with the sound of lite. I saw this is the main mics. Should I be getting close to this sound with the lite?
I've never tried the lite version so i'm not sure what the tonal difference between the two is. In this video I'm only using the default out of the box setting I think. I didn't record more videos with contrasting settings because of the drop outs.

Minus pedal and drop out issues, I thought it was a very nice and convincing piano. It's a pretty versatile instrument for sure.
 

harmaes

Member
I heard from Embertone support that the beta version can be requested via their support email address. Anyone tried it? (haven’t bought it yet)
 

wolfgangmeister

New Member
Yes it is true. I heard from both Alex Davis and Nick Cameron from Embertone Technical Support; they provided me a v1.1 BETA patch that is definitely an improvement from my initial assessment - I've been evaluating it for the past hour or so. Here was the direct message from their tech team:
"Hello! You are receiving this message because you requested the BETA patch for the Walker 1955 Concert D. We apologize for the wait! We just shared two zip files with you... those are the instruments with the half pedaling feature completed! This version is almost a full 1.1 update. However, in the coming weeks the following features will be added: (1) a new sustain resonance sample set will be added! (2) a minor graphical glitch will be fixed (3) full NKS re-integration. New presets to match all the new features of the 1.1 update."
 

eli0s

Active Member
I don't get any cutoffs with the new 1.1 beta instrument and I can already tell that there is a huge difference in expression with half pedaling! Half sustained notes leave so much more room for subtle details. Previously, the full sustained notes were too dominate in dense passages.

One thing that I can tell for sure is that the voice count and cpu usage skyrockets with this instrument!!! I hope that in the future some optimization will bring cpu - buffer size requirements down.
 

Mikk

New Member
For me even with the new beta update the piano is still unplayable.
I have a correct machine: I7 quad core 2016 macbook pro. 16 Gb or ram, fast SSD, thunderbolt UAD apollo twin sound card: I can't play without dropout with a buffer at 128. As soon as the voices go around the voice limit and I release the sustain pedal I get dropouts.
I have tried to lower the voice limit or to set it very high, batch resave. I have even tried to reinstall a fresh OS on an external SSD without success. The support answer is to set the buffer size aroud 512 or 758!!!

How many perspective can you play at the same time with the classical preset? and what buffer size do you use? how many voices?
 

Pudge

Active Member
Reading the thread title made me think of that old TV show, Walker Texas Ranger...

Anyway, sounds nice :)
 

wolfgangmeister

New Member
For me even with the new beta update the piano is still unplayable.
I have a correct machine: I7 quad core 2016 macbook pro. 16 Gb or ram, fast SSD, thunderbolt UAD apollo twin sound card: I can't play without dropout with a buffer at 128. As soon as the voices go around the voice limit and I release the sustain pedal I get dropouts.
I have tried to lower the voice limit or to set it very high, batch resave. I have even tried to reinstall a fresh OS on an external SSD without success. The support answer is to set the buffer size aroud 512 or 758!!!

How many perspective can you play at the same time with the classical preset? and what buffer size do you use? how many voices?
I also have a Dell i7 quad core 2018 2-in-1 touchscreen laptop, with a very fast SSD. In order to avoid dropouts on a slower more melodic Liszt or Grieg lyrical piece, I've had to increase the buffer size to at least 256 (which is a noticeable latency to me) and use only one microphone set - Wide. I've also had to adapt my playing to hang onto notes with more exaggerated legato and pronounced on-to-off-to-on sustain pedaling to help clear the buffer. These are all things I do not have to do with Garritan CFX Full, VSL Steinway or PianoTeq 6.4 Std - operating with zero or no latency with a polyphony of 128 (or 256 on PT) and buffers of no more than 128. I can definitely hear the potential in the sound of the samples with the Embertone Walker 1955 Concert D - i.e. beautiful sampling; but the interface and details of operation have a way to go to match their aforementioned competitors.
 

keepitsimple

Active Member
I have to genuinely applaud everyone here for their commitment and patience with this piano in terms of waiting for a fix. I mean not even the wife in the new Netflix show ‘Dirty John” has the patience you guys have.

Me? I threw the towel a long time ago, it’s now in my trash stash aka ‘unused libraries SSD”. I did update to the beta version yesterday but it’s still in the trash stash and I have a feeling it will always be there.

We’ll see when the final update rolls but I’m not getting my hopes up.
 
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CGR

Pianist, Composer & Arranger
I have to genuily applaud everyone here for their commitment and patience with this piano, knowing that it sounds good but it plays....NOT so good. Not even the wife in the new Netflix show ‘Dirty John” can have the patience you guys have in terms of waiting for a fix.

Me? I threw the towel a long time ago, it’s now in my trash stash aka ‘unused libraries SSD”. I did update to the beta version yesterday but it’s still in the trash stash, I’m not really getting my hopes up. We’ll see when the final update rolls....
Ha! I like your 'Dirty John' analogy, but I'm sorry to hear The Walker D still isn't working for you. I haven't tried the beta update as yet (I only have the Lite, and will sit it out until the final release update is out before considering upgrading to the full version).
 
I have to genuinely applaud everyone here for their commitment and patience with this piano in terms of waiting for a fix. I mean not even the wife in the new Netflix show ‘Dirty John” has the patience you guys have.

Me? I threw the towel a long time ago, it’s now in my trash stash aka ‘unused libraries SSD”. I did update to the beta version yesterday but it’s still in the trash stash and I have a feeling it will always be there.

We’ll see when the final update rolls but I’m not getting my hopes up.
I am halfway to the same direction, especially because my request for beta patch stays couple of months without results and I really hate to repeat myself and beg again. So my focus change towards VSL pianos. But as you said, we`ll see when the final update comes.
 

keepitsimple

Active Member
I am halfway to the same direction, especially because my request for beta patch stays couple of months without results and I really hate to repeat myself and beg again. So my focus change towards VSL pianos. But as you said, we`ll see when the final update comes.
Good for you. Long time coming for you. You made the right choice!
 

alexbaroni

New Member
Hi people.

I have two products from Embertone.

-Walker 1955 Steinway D
-Joshua Bell Violin

I noted that in Komplete Kontrol sofware, The Walker Piano is showed under Native Instruments Vendor and not in Embertone. The Joshua Violin is correct under the Embertone.

I didn´t check all the forum yet, but I appreciate to know if someone have had the same problem. I asked Embertone, but they don´t have an answer for me until now.

Thank you
Alex
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