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EastWest Hollywood Choirs

Discussion in 'SAMPLE Talk' started by George Bellas, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. erica-grace

    erica-grace Senior Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    I find it comical at best, that several people posted snippets of the library, which didnt sound all that great, and people were all over those, and NoamL posts an entire track featuring the library back on page 18, which sounds really good - way better than any of the other user offerings here - and nobody says a damn thing. Do you all hate EW that much, regardless?
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  2. ricz

    ricz Senior Member

    Nov 2, 2014
    Los Angeles, CA
    I could be wrong, but I believe that example was using Oceania.
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  3. NoamL

    NoamL Senior Member

    Jul 6, 2015
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  4. AlexanderSchiborr

    AlexanderSchiborr Senior Member

    May 1, 2014
    Go and read the comment right, did you? I guess not. Noam featured Oceania choir.

    As it comes to John G´s comment: I guess then the HWC are really good? Ah..he gets the stuff from EW for free. Was HWC also on the free list? Imo his comment reads it like that the flaws are somehow worth to overlook and so my advice take such comments with care. Most of the other people I read here who have used HWC actually didn´t let much of good words on it which speaks also a language and back up my own thoughts that I found the demos not really good as well the very average tutorial and not to speak of that horrendous trailer...

    Noam is offering the midi so I would ask you @JohnG as it is seems you find HWC beeing that good: Are you willing to make a rendition with the midi file to showcase the capabilities of HWC in order to back up your posting a bit so hopefully that everybody sees how good HWC can sound really like? ...
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  5. markleake

    markleake Recovering sale addict

    Nov 8, 2015
    Yes, @AlexanderSchiborr is right, in the sense that I'd much prefer to listen to what people can achieve with it as evidence that it is a good library.

    It seems quite costly for what it does, so give us some demos that show it as good (not the ones on the EW website as they are not very good IMO) like we get with other good libraries... only then will I be interested in the library.

    On the topic of some rough pieces... I don't understand why people wouldn't want to hear these and why they are objected to so strongly. Rough sketches are just as informative as polished ones, sometimes more so, so long as they are presented honestly as a rough sketch.

    I think people are in the main not anti-EW as some here like to think. We just want a library to sound good, be good quality, be easily playable and easy to integrate into our templates. And we will try our best to judge the library on these merits and make our own decisions.
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  6. DarkestShadow

    DarkestShadow Senior Member

    Strange... some of the examples here sound terrible. But in this walkthrough everything sounds pretty nice to me. (except from the men legato). I also find it rather moderate, not super duper over the top boasty.
  7. Morodiene

    Morodiene Senior Moment

    Dec 21, 2015
    It could be the fact the Nick was using Spaces 2 in his tutorial, which may not have been available for these demos?
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  8. woafmann

    woafmann Member

    Dec 5, 2017
    SF Bay Area
    Played with it a little more. Lowering the non-pitched consonant global volume really helped a lot. Sounding much sweeter for sure. Also, riding CC11 is adding some nice emotion to my playing.

    I was able to coax out some softer, more lyrical riffs; although this library is certainly geared towards a more bombastic and epic sound out of the box. There is a gentler side to HC that I didn't realize was there. I suppose just like with any instrument, virtual or otherwise, it's gonna' take some time to discover it's deeper nature and learn how to gel with it.

    Feeling better about my purchase as I learn the settings more and starting to appreciate HC for what it is. Time will tell though!
  9. AlexanderSchiborr

    AlexanderSchiborr Senior Member

    May 1, 2014
    Feel free to let some soundexamples speak..
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017
  10. omiroad

    omiroad Senior Member

    Oct 17, 2016
    Why do they let someone who worked at the company review the library? Even this reply seems bitter about people not liking it. It's a far cry from neutrality...
  11. Simon Ravn

    Simon Ravn Senior Member

    Because he is an expert at being unbiased and neutral. And in reviewing, using and composing with orchestral sample libraries.
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  12. KaBirdi

    KaBirdi Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    I was wondering whether it's possible to show off microphone positions of Diamond without any reverb applied? The walkthrough video had Spaces 2 applied and wasn't exactly a true representation of how dry / wet HWC actually is. Thanks!
  13. erica-grace

    erica-grace Senior Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    Ok, I made a mistake... sorry! :confused:
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  14. camelot

    camelot Senior Member

    Jul 31, 2016
    When I watched the overview video, I wondered why adding more reverb if audience and surround mics are there and already in the mix. Adding layers and layers of room will make the sound washy in the end.
  15. Ashermusic

    Ashermusic Senior Member

    Mar 27, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Because I got fired? Do you think that makes me still prejudiced? And those who have been here a long time know that I have stood up for lots of other developers as well and criticized the general tone of many here and left and then returned. I will now probably leave again.

    This I can say : Before I worked for EW I never wrote anything I didn't believe to be true. While I worked for EW I never wrote anything I didn't believe to be true. Now that I no longer work for EW I don't write anything I don't believe to be true. And if you don't believe that, you can take any of your body parts and insert them into any of your other body parts.
  16. Vischebaste

    Vischebaste Senior Member

    Feb 24, 2015
    That's a lot of potential combinations. Could you at least give us a hint?
  17. Paul Owen

    Paul Owen Senior Member

    Dec 9, 2016
    I don't believe that.
  18. Vischebaste

    Vischebaste Senior Member

    Feb 24, 2015
    Then you can take your big toe and insert it into your nostril.
  19. Mike Greene

    Mike Greene Administrator

    To be fair, it's not like you were "fired" under bad terms. In fact, if I recall correctly, Doug asked you to post a Hollywood Choirs teaser here a few months ago, and ... you did it. So I think it's fair for people to assume that ties haven't been severed completely.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt your integrity at all. But when it comes to East West, it's not unreasonable for people to believe there might be lingering allegiances. Appearances matter, and in the case of EW, you made your bed, so you have to lie in it.
  20. Vischebaste

    Vischebaste Senior Member

    Feb 24, 2015
    Earlobe into belly button, please.
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