EastWest and iLok

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  1. I like music

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    Hey guys!

    A bit confused, and had reached out to them but not heard back. Is it the case that I can't have an EW library activated on two machines? As in, I have to deactivate on one machine via iLok manager each time I want to use it on another?

    Currently on my laptop, with no access to my computer where I had originally activated a couple of their libraries, and it seems like I can't activate any libraries on here unless I physically deactivate from my other machine ...

    Does anyone know what the general policy is? Couldn't find it anywhere!
     
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  2. HardyP

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    That´s right; that is btw the downside of not using the iLok dongle:
    If you want to transfer a license from A to B, then you need to deactivate the license on A with the iLok Manager (means transferring the license to your license cloud, so the need of an online connection), and then activate that license on B while being online.
     
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    Thank you all. Since it is likely I'll be using two machines per day, every day, this will be a headache. Lets see how it goes!
     
  5. Dex

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    I only have HO. I only got one ilok activation, so at least for that library yes, that’s the policy.
     
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    Actually, this makes me wonder if I could somehow purchase a second activation? (Unless that is the same price as buying the same libraries again...)
     
  7. JohnG

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    My experience is this: If you use a physical iLok on Machine A for Library x, and you also have Library x installed on Machine B, you just move the iLok to a USB port on Machine B if you want to use Machine B instead.

    So no, I didn't deactivate anything if using the physical iLok. If you are using the soft version maybe so -- idk.
     
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    Aye, it is a soft-version so I have to deactivate each time. I do have a dongle for my Cubase. Can that somehow be used/is it compatible, if anyone knows?
     
  9. Manuel Stumpf

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    No does not work. Cubase uses e-Licenser (which works with VSL libraries).
    Whereas EastWest uses iLok.
    These are the two big dongle solutions (not compatible to each other).

    But moving the license to a phyiscal iLok dongle let's you change machine by taking the dongle with you.
     
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  10. Manuel Stumpf

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    Yup. iLok-Cloud let's you use your license on different machines without deactivating anything (only one machine at a time per license).
    Downside: You must have internet connection.

    Unfortunately iLok-Cloud does not work for all licenses. Only for those where the developer allows it. My EastWest licenses do not allow iLok-Cloud.
     
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  11. JohnG

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    That's not what seems to happen here. The license is in the iLok dongle -- that's the point of it. If you move the dongle you don't need to be connected to the internet nor do you need to deactivate anything.

    Maybe they changed something?
     
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    Thank you for clarifying. I might just have to buy a physical dongle, though having two of these (one for e-licenser for cubase, and another for east west) sticking out of my laptop sends shivers up my spine. I tend to break usb-type sticks a lot...
     
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    Hoping to get a response from them soon, and once I do I'll query this exact situation just to make sure I know how to proceed. Thanks for the answers!
     
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  14. Manuel Stumpf

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    This was just mentioned because @Fleer above brought the iLok-Cloud feature into the discussion.

    Right now there are 3 ways using iLok licenses:
    a) Using physical iLok dongle: No need for internet connection. Just take the dongle where you want to use the license. That is the purpose of the dongle :)

    b) Using computer locked iLok license: Does not use a dongle but activates to a computer. This has to be deactivated each time you want to transfer it to a different machine. That is what the question here was all about.

    c) iLok-Cloud license: Does not use a physical dongle. The license is automatically activated on the machine when you want to use a license. This is like automatically activating/deactivating computer locked licenses. But you need internet connection for this. And the developer must allow iLok-Cloud feature. This is kind of new and keeps your license online all the time and activates to one of your machines on request automatically.
    Edit: EastWest license do not allow iLok-Cloud (at least mine do not).
     
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  15. JohnG

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    thank you for clarifying.
     
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