Dominus Pro

jbuhler

Senior Member
Is it normal to get charged tax from Fluffy? I'm in the US. Haven't really seen that on sample libraries before.
Most sample libraries I buy these days are taxed. I live in Texas. Someone on here recently said California doesn’t charge tax for online software purchases.
 

paoling

Developer
Hello, we are contacting Fastspring regarding this issue. In our shop everything should be VAT-Included in case there's one. (I hate when I go to a shop, thinking that I'm paying that price and on checkout I see the price increasing because of VAT).


Recently something has changed regarding VAT on a few states in the US, but I thought that in that case the VAT should be on our side as well as it happens with EU purchases.
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
Hello, we are contacting Fastspring regarding this issue. In our shop everything should be VAT-Included in case there's one. (I hate when I go to a shop, thinking that I'm paying that price and on checkout I see the price increasing because of VAT).


Recently something has changed regarding VAT on a few states in the US, but I thought that in that case the VAT should be on our side as well as it happens with EU purchases.
I will say that in the US we are used to sales tax being added to the listed price rather than being included, so it's not a big deal so long as you know that you will be taxed. I'm pretty sure when I bought Dominus no tax was charged, but when I bought Dominus Pro, the tax was charged, so perhaps something changed with Fastspring with respect to the collection of sales tax in US.
 

John57

Active Member
Where Does FastSpring Collect Taxes?

U.S. Sales Tax
Some sales in certain states may be subject to sales tax. Sales of physical products shipped to residents in California, and sales of digital products, subscriptions, and physical products will incur a sales tax for residents in all U.S. states and regions except for Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, AA, AE, AP, AS, and Puerto Rico. FastSpring complies with the rules and regulations in each state. Recent changes have been made in reaction to the Wayfair Act. To learn more about this, check out our blog post: https://fastspring.com/blog/care-wayfair-state-tax-ruling/.
 

jtnyc

Senior Member
I will say that in the US we are used to sales tax being added to the listed price rather than being included, so it's not a big deal so long as you know that you will be taxed. I'm pretty sure when I bought Dominus no tax was charged, but when I bought Dominus Pro, the tax was charged, so perhaps something changed with Fastspring with respect to the collection of sales tax in US.
I'm in NY and this is the first time I've been charged tax on a downloadable VI or Plugin and I make regular purchases from JRR, Plugin Boutique, Time and Space, Best Service, The Unfinished, Sound Dust etc..
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
I'm in NY and this is the first time I've been charged tax on a downloadable VI or Plugin and I make regular purchases from JRR, Plugin Boutique, Time and Space, Best Service, The Unfinished, Sound Dust etc..
NI collects tax, and has for several years. I'm pretty sure a few others have started this past year as well, though I haven't been able to locate additional examples (since I haven't yet organized my tax receipts for the year).
 

Monkberry

Active Member
I'm also in NY and so far I've only been taxed for Fluffy, Herman Samples, and Native Instruments. It's gonna be painful if it's starts happening on some of the more expensive Orchestral Libraries.
 

paoling

Developer
Hello guys!

We have contacted Fastspring and this is what they have replied:
Regardless of your settings, US taxes will always be NET, meaning the price defined for a product will be considered tax exclusive. In non-US countries where tax is collected, the appropriate tax rate will be added to the order automatically (after discounts are applied) and buyers will be charged the full amount. Your proceeds will be calculated from the list price.

We can have put in place VAT included prices for European orders, so our users won't find the added tax as a surprise in their chart, but it seems that we can't do anything for specific US countries where sales-tax is collected :(

Oh, just a reminder: Dominus Choir Pro intro pricing is ending in 48h!
 

ptram

Senior Member
There are no words!

I mean, I run out of the ten words allowed in a patch. It would be great to have more words, since pieces with long lyrics can go over the 12x10 matrix.

The workaround is to open a new patch. In Logic, one could use folders to keep track compact and see the score in the same line.

However, I fear opening two patches for each line of the score would double the memory required. More words per patch seems easier.

Paolo
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
There are no words!

I mean, I run out of the ten words allowed in a patch. It would be great to have more words, since pieces with long lyrics can go over the 12x10 matrix.

The workaround is to open a new patch. In Logic, one could use folders to keep track compact and see the score in the same line.

However, I fear opening two patches for each line of the score would double the memory required. More words per patch seems easier.

Paolo
As far as I can tell, the size of an instance of Dominus depends on the number of syllables you have loaded. So adding words to an instance of Dominus will increase the size of the instance. Repeating a syllable in the instance, however, does not increase the memory. It seems like Dominus does not share samples across instances in the same multi. That is, two instances of Dominus require reloading any syllables repeated between instances. So the savings of more words in one instance is simply the number of repeated syllables in that instance. That in turn suggests the optimal way of loading Dominus is to keep variants of words in the same instance as much as possible.

To reduce track counts in Logic, I load Kontakt multis with multiple instances of Dominus in different midi channels and use articulation sets to select the word. I haven't tried Dominus on a long text yet, though—I only worked with twenty some words and rhythmic variants (three instances of Dominus in a Kontakt multi using articulation sets to trigger words). So I'm not sure how that work flow would hold up to more words.
 

paoling

Developer
Dominus depends on the number of syllables you have loaded. So adding words to an instance of Dominus will increase the size of the instance
Yes and no.

Since the syllables are picked up from a pool of presampled words, some syllables may not increase the amount of RAM needed if they are present in previous words. But, potentially you can load up to 30GB in a single instance of Dominus if you really fit it with very long words with all the mics active.

The limitation of 10 words was also due to this fact. If we'd done a system of pages, we could have given the impression that's completely normal to make an entire mass on Dominus and someone may have complained about the limitation in RAM.

In anycase adding an instance of Dominus won't consume much more RAM, because the shared samples between all instances are loaded from the same memory pool. Even if, for the user, different instances of VSTs seem completely separated, actually the VST is loaded once with different GUI instances, as much as the tabs in your browser.
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
In anycase if I'm not wrong adding an instance of Dominus won't consume much more RAM, because the shared samples between all instances are loaded from the same memory pool. Even if to the user different instances of VSTs seem completely separated, internally the VST is loaded once with different GUI instances, as much as the tabs in your browser.
Thanks for the clarification! This is what I wasn't sure about. I thought Kontakt worked as you described it, but when earlier I loaded a duplicate instance of Dominus and checked the RAM usage in the activity monitor, it looked like the size of Kontakt had increased about the size of the samples. But running it again now, I see that it's not the case and Kontakt only increases negligibly with the second instance of Dominus.
 

Wunderhorn

Senior Member
I wonder if it was possible to create some more textural sounds with Dominus Pro. I am thinking of textures we heard in more minimalist settings. Specifically I am thinking of John Adams here (Harmonium for example). Is that possible to achieve? Do the short articulations have enough round-robins for that?
And if it is not possible I'd love to know if there are some extensions planned for the future that might perhaps be able to cover such ground?
 

ptram

Senior Member
I wonder if it was possible to create some more textural sounds with Dominus Pro.
From the tests I did, it seems that there are no round robins in the Staccato instrument. Obviously, there aren't in the Legato instrument. I didn't try yet with the Marcato.

But maybe there is a way to trigger them, and let's see if I just didn't find it.

Paolo

EDIT: This is a try with simulated round robins made with pitch bend. Unfortunately, the bending effect is clearly audible. Maybe @paoling can implement scripted round robins making use of different notes of the same syllable?

Fake round robins in the first part, no round robins in the second one. Inspired to Harmonium, but at a much lower speed to check round robins.

EDIT 2: I added a sequence with the piece at real speed. All notes with simulated RR.
 

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TintoL

Active Member
Sorry to revive this thread.

I am very interested in Dominus. But, I do have some doubts:

1- Does dominus choir has the ability to turn OFF the built in reverb?
2- Is the library mostly dry or wet?


Thanks in advance for the help.