adriaantaylor
New Member
got any links to which ones? i want multiple zones if possible the more the better.. i need the flexibility.
Doepfer LMK4 overrated?
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got any links to which ones? i want multiple zones if possible the more the better.. i need the flexibility.
EvilDragon
KSP Wizard
Almost any Kurzweil. PC3/PC3K/Forte would do. Up to 16 zones, each with completely adjustable controller setups. So your modwheel could send CC1 for zone 1, send inverted CC 6 for zone 2, do something entirely different for zone 3, etc. etc.
If you don't need the sound engine, take a strong, long and hard look at Viscount Physis K4. They have basically taken Kurzweil's scheme and ran away with it, except it only supports up to 8 zones instead of 16, unfortunately - but... They added 8 MIDI outputs and 8 friggin' pedal inputs to that board! EVERYTHING ASSIGNABLE!
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If you don't need the sound engine, take a strong, long and hard look at Viscount Physis K4. They have basically taken Kurzweil's scheme and ran away with it, except it only supports up to 8 zones instead of 16, unfortunately - but... They added 8 MIDI outputs and 8 friggin' pedal inputs to that board! EVERYTHING ASSIGNABLE!
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packetslave
New Member
I noticed in a fairly recent video that Junkie XL switched from Doepfer to the NI Komplete Kontrol 88 at some point.
chimuelo
Star Of Stage & Screen
On the Physis K4 you have 32 Zones if you switch between Scenes inside of the Performance. 4 Scenes with pre and post considerations and that’s on an additional option of 8 messages added to each scene. Deep shit here.
I started using Controllers with the Yamaha KX88, Kurzweil MIDIboard, Roland A90, Oberheim MC3000, M Audio KS88, Casio PX-3S and Physis K4 since 2013.
Physis K4 has possibilities never thought of before.
Recently using Chains and Steps for shows that are on a tight schedule and heavily automated.
Also just added 2 x TC Helicon VoiceRacks to automate all vocalists FX in real-time.
There’s nothing else as forwarding loooking and complete as the K4.
Extensive USB Hub Transport section and everything you need to automate stage and studio with.
Best semi action too. It’s got heavy resistance so it’s not light, but this makes the programming of custom velocity curves per zone really nice.
If you spend 4-8 hours a day playing this makes sure you’re playing instead of programming.
I started using Controllers with the Yamaha KX88, Kurzweil MIDIboard, Roland A90, Oberheim MC3000, M Audio KS88, Casio PX-3S and Physis K4 since 2013.
Physis K4 has possibilities never thought of before.
Recently using Chains and Steps for shows that are on a tight schedule and heavily automated.
Also just added 2 x TC Helicon VoiceRacks to automate all vocalists FX in real-time.
There’s nothing else as forwarding loooking and complete as the K4.
Extensive USB Hub Transport section and everything you need to automate stage and studio with.
Best semi action too. It’s got heavy resistance so it’s not light, but this makes the programming of custom velocity curves per zone really nice.
If you spend 4-8 hours a day playing this makes sure you’re playing instead of programming.
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jmauz
Active Member
Nektar Impact LX88. I've been using it for 3 years now, love it. Semi-weighted but I'm not a pianist so I don't mind. In fact I prefer that over hammer action when programming drums or other heavily rhythmic parts.
charlieclouser
Senior Member
Chim, did you change the knobs and fader caps to those colors, or do they come with the thing?
It would be cool if the 8 buttons could send note-on events - then you could use them for key switching. Any idea if that's possible?
It would be cool if the 8 buttons could send note-on events - then you could use them for key switching. Any idea if that's possible?
chimuelo
Star Of Stage & Screen
Custom knobs of rubber for better grip, and yes Buttons can do keyswitching.
I use Swells, Shakes, Stacatto and Sustain for Horns as one example.
Perc. for Hammond B3, presets on vocal FX in Step Mode, or simple latch/unlatch for quick lo-fi tails on delay, etc.
Endless possibilities.
If you ever get one I’d be happy to share.
I’m nowhere near mastering it after 5 years.
Anything that automates live work is likely to be a huge work flow benefit for recording.
The manual is well written but behind in terms of accidentally discovered gems.
I must buy a spare.
Having one of these then something go wrong would be traumatic without a spare.
I’m beyond spoiled.
I also use String articulation and have a Boss FS-6 for those as I use three.
Triggering loops or string runs on buttons is cool too.
Runaway (cover tune) uses lots of runs, buttons really help.
Also Orange Tree Passion Flute has great Jethro Tull spitter fx and trills/licks I pull off with ease.
Buttons do Prgm Chng, RPN, NRPN, SySEx many chores.
As do the sliders knobs and pedals.
I use Swells, Shakes, Stacatto and Sustain for Horns as one example.
Perc. for Hammond B3, presets on vocal FX in Step Mode, or simple latch/unlatch for quick lo-fi tails on delay, etc.
Endless possibilities.
If you ever get one I’d be happy to share.
I’m nowhere near mastering it after 5 years.
Anything that automates live work is likely to be a huge work flow benefit for recording.
The manual is well written but behind in terms of accidentally discovered gems.
I must buy a spare.
Having one of these then something go wrong would be traumatic without a spare.
I’m beyond spoiled.
I also use String articulation and have a Boss FS-6 for those as I use three.
Triggering loops or string runs on buttons is cool too.
Runaway (cover tune) uses lots of runs, buttons really help.
Also Orange Tree Passion Flute has great Jethro Tull spitter fx and trills/licks I pull off with ease.
Buttons do Prgm Chng, RPN, NRPN, SySEx many chores.
As do the sliders knobs and pedals.
EvilDragon
KSP Wizard
Yes, you can assign notes to buttons. And switch pedals, too!
Available parameters are:
Type: type of MIDI message transmitted by the control, can be
- OFF: no MIDI message assigned
- CC: Control Change
- NRPN: Non Registered Parameter Number
- RPN: Registered Parameter Number
- PITCH: Pitch Bend
- PROG: Program Change
- CH PRESS: Channel Pressure (channel aftertouch)
- NOTE: note message (only for buttons)
It's all in the manual. You can even make it send up to 8 MIDI messages upon switching to a certain scene, across all MIDI ports. Wicked stuff.
I noticed them at Hans' live shows too. I am incredibly happy with mine, especially how cheap they are used. $600 on craigslist!
Trungcomposer
New Member
Hi all!
I have a doepfer lmk4 + a roland DP10 pedal area! How can I connect them! I want to play piano with pedal sustain! Can someone help me! Thank you very much!
I have a doepfer lmk4 + a roland DP10 pedal area! How can I connect them! I want to play piano with pedal sustain! Can someone help me! Thank you very much!
BGvanRens
Bram
I have the exact same setup, you plug it into 'switches' then you go to CTR - NR.1 (not bank) and set Ex.Sw1 -> SUS to ON. (just press the 1 to switch it on/off)
Just put the connector into the port on the left called „Switches“
Trungcomposer
New Member
Thank you! I tried but it didn't work
Trungcomposer
New Member
I tried but did not work!
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BGvanRens
Bram
Is the pedal set to 'continuous'? for some odd reason it always worked fine for me but recently I got some problems, like the pedal working in opposite direction. I just switched it to make the pedal function as a 'switch' and it worked.
Trungcomposer
New Member
Thanks you! I tried but failed! Pedal works well with Roland A88!
strava kerska
New Member
i can’t imagine how can world class musicians like zimmer and others, how can they depend on such keyboard with such action... really i’m wondering about that!
Hans I see took his out of the case, now it just looks like a fatar keybed tucked under his desk. Junkie xl switched to the komplete kontrol. By the way, customer support was completely useless in helping get mine fixed. Its sitting in my garage if you want a free one
