BenG
Senior Member
Another track trying my hand at some more 'Epic/Trailer' music! As always, any feedback welcomed!
Dies Irae
Dies Irae
What gave it away...?BTW: do I hear a little Williams/Star Wars inspiration at the beginning?
Another track trying my hand at some more 'Epic/Trailer' music! As always, any feedback welcomed!
Dies Irae
That is imo the more honest trailer sound approach, not overly pounding drums, more a symphonic approach with some nice usage of woodwinds also (Why they don´t use woodwinds anymore..) and I like therefore a lot more than the stereotypical thing. Sounds more like trailers were back then like in 2010 or something because your example has some musicality inside which is a big plus for my personal taste. If you really want that more modern sound..yeah..that lowend and drums and has to slam more like a metal band..but like I say: this sounds more like a lively performance because it tries to maintain a little bit of dynamics still. The ending chord is a bit lazy for me. You could have done a bit more there imo, like "Dadada-dann, dann- dann-dann something like that.
Appreciate it Alex and funny you mention this!
Recently, I have tried to get more into 'Epic/Trailer' music and quickly realized that I was a bit out of my element with the more modern sounding stuff. Coming from a traditional orchestral background, I decided to go stick with what I know while taking notes from classical/film composers and early trailer albums. So your description is exactly what I was hoping for!
You are also spot on about the ending and will need to rework to make it more interesting. As for woodwinds, I couldn't leave them out as a former woodwind player, but I'm surprised you heard them in there tbh! Even when not audible, I find they actually add some extra depth to the overall sound.
Yeah, I know where you come from and I can hear that truely, thats the reason why I like it more than that other trailer stuff :D No, I mean each to their own. Not to slam the trailer music per se. However, thats good. Keep that musicality because that is a point where I see the better trailer music. Reminds me on older Thomas B. stuff you know and the ending..yeah..I was nitpicking..maybe you can make it a little more with twist or something. :D But man, thank you for sharing the piece!
Yup definitely and glad to hear it! Also, appreciate the TB comparison although, it's nowhere near his amazing work
Big fan of your work as well, btw!
The orchestration is fine, it is just how you are using the choir shorts. Like is said above, the choir is singing very short notes with breaths in between. It is way too tight for real people to actually sing that... unless they've practiced that part a lot and are very good. So I'd suggest you solve whatever is going on with the VST, or you may need to mix it back some, or mix with other shorts or something to lessen the effect. The choir themselves sound fine though, just they are superhuman in ability here.Thanks for the comments, @markleake!
Like you, I don't really produce 'epic' music, so your advice regarding choirs is quite helpful! Just to clarify, is the issue your referring to just with the mix or the the composition/orchestration as well?
I'll definitely try and push the choir back some more (it is quite a dry-library) and I think lowering the dry signal+adding more ER should help.
@BenG Would it be possible to sent me an uncompressed mixwave of that track in Wave, 24 bit with at least -6dB headroom still? I would try to clean it a bit up and try a master, if you like. I think the sound has some potential.
I totally second Alexander's review.
If you have a way to soften the staccato voices, it would be better, but it's already very nice.
My only big complaint (not related to you) : SoundCloud is ruining the sound and creating horrible artifacts on high end. This is the trademark of SoundCloud and it's really damaging a lot of the wonderful creations made by members of VI-C.
How much time did it take to compose it ?
About the choir problem : It might depends on your vision and your aims; even if it not physically possible to sing like this, do you personnaly like it? It's V.I. so you can have fun with it, I like the idea of new possibilities by doing impossible things with V.I. . But if the piece has to be really performed, then you really have to care about the physical problem of performing your composition.