"Dark Crystal Overture" Mockup ! (aka Soaring Strings Crash Test)

Discussion in 'Member's Compositions' started by whitewasteland, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Hi everyone,

    Having recently acquired Musical Sampling's Soaring Strings during their latest sale, I wanted to try them in a new Mockup.

    I am a huge fan of Trevor Jone's score for Dark Crystal, so I thought it would be a perfect candidate. Here is my Mockup for the "Overture" piece (well... not the whole piece, but the biggest part !)

    With the exception of a very few runs, trems and stuff, 99% of the strings are Soaring Strings. Brass is Berlin Brass with a few touches of Metropolis Arks & the excellent Majestic Horn from Organic Samples. Woodwinds are from VSL SE, + the sweet Clarinet from Embertone.

    Hope you'll enjoy the result !

     
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  2. ryans

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    Great work, and may I say great taste as well... it's a gorgeous score.

    A major letdown with sampled strings, for me, is the inability to capture that (soaring) quality that high strings in octaves/unison have when performed live... but they sound pretty good in your mockup, soaring strings doing their job!

    Orchestral balance is really good for the most part.. brass may be a bit underrepresented in a few places. At around 2:00, it would be nice to hear that beautiful cello line come through a bit more... although I'm probably only noticing that due to my familiarity with the original recording..

    Well done!

    Ryan
     
  3. Land of Missing Parts

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    Love it love it love it. :elephant:

    Is that Drum Fury I hear in the bass drum and/or timpani?

    Also, is that Gelfling I smell? :emoji_gem:
     
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    @ryans : Thank you so much ! I think Soaring Strings did very well in this situation. Very happy with it !

    You're probably right about the balance issues you mentionned, but I spent so much energy on the transcribing/playing/programming process I may have lost focus on the mixing stage. I guess I'll find out in a few days :)

    @Land of Missing Parts : Glad you liked it ! No Drum Fury on this one, it is very well recorded, but too clean/modern for this particular mockup.

    I usually use a lot of close mics in my mockups, but here I sticked to only using decca trees for all instruments (or ORTF for Berlin Brass).

    The Gran Casa is from Ark 3, and the Timpani is from HZ01 (even if I told @NoamL I didn't like them a few days ago, lol).

    <3
     
  5. Manaberry

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    Very nice mockup! I really like the mix. Sounds natural.
    Beau boulot!
     
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    Thank you @Manaberry ! The mix is actually dead simple, just reverb, some volume automation and a very soft limiter. :)
     
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    Sometimes it's not that easy to do simple things :P
     
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  8. Brian Nowak

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    Sounds great... right out of the box...
     
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    You know what, I was SO CLOSE to write that and tag you, Brian :)
     
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  10. DivingInSpace

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    I have been listening to this score over the last couple of days, and started considering getting the score to analyse. This sounds great!
     
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    Thank you @DivingInSpace , I certainly learnt a lot by studying this piece. It is brillantly written and orchestrated :)
     
  12. Vladimir Bulaev

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    Beautiful Mockup Emmanuel! Quality work!
    Do you write notes by ear or do you have access to scores or midi?

    Thank you for sharing!
     
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    Thank you @Vladimir Bulaev , much appreciated !
    The Trevor Jones and Herrmann mockups were made with the score, and the Elfman and Desplats mockups were made by ear.
    Both are good exercices for me :)
     
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  14. LudovicVDP

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    What a great movie! What a great score! And what a superb mockup!
     
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  15. handz

    handz Senior Member

    Love the score, love your mockup. These old scores have very special sound - lots of air in them and you nailed it nicely with Soaring Strings - they are so nice sounding.

    Would you mind sharing the midi file?

    thank you
     
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    Thank you both !

    Here is the MIDI file ;)
     

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  17. handz

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    yay, thank you!!!
     
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  18. Paul T McGraw

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    @whitewasteland a very believable mockup. I am sorry to say that I thought the strings sound was the weakest area. I wish you had Spitfire Symphonic Strings for this project. Your skills are great, but I just do not like the sound of soaring strings.
     
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    Thank you @Paul T McGraw , always like to know what you think :)

    To be fair with Soaring Strings, it's a small and light library compared to big guys like Spitfire Chamber Strings or OT Berlin Strings. I think they did really good for that exercice, but clearly there are parts in this mockup where other libraries would be more appropriate. I'm thinking especially about the parts with lots of divisi, where the Molto Vibrato of Soaring Strings creates a slightly "shaking" and unstable sound with so many voices together.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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