This thread.
I mean, how awesome is Inception's Time by Hans, yet it's 4 and a half minutes of the same non-modulated chord progression with things just layered atop of it.
I agree the end result is what matters, no matter how simple it is, or how it was achieved.
But, again, as Verta says, the result should be about our decision, and not about our limitations. Meaning, a piece should be minimalistic and with limited development because that was the composer's choice, not because he can't compose anything else.
Can't agree more.
The other important thing I took from Mike's classes is, composing is totally free-form.
That's why my head is not preoccupied with chord progressions, or parallel fifths "laws", or whatever. I sit in front of a piano with my mind totally clear, figuring out the piece as my fingers run around the keyboard.
This mindset will make some YT videos so funny, when academically trained guys (with much much deeper knowledge than me, of course) are commenting on some Williams' piece, totally making excuses for his parallel fifths, how it's ok the way he uses them, or when they are trying to describe some Mozart piece saying he modulated here from here yet even using chords out of that scale... It's like these academic guys have theory before music, but these composers do music before any theory. (Or maybe there's theory behind it since they know it so well, but some chromatic movements, chords and modulations are so wild that I doubt they were done with theory in mind.)
What I'm personally training now is going from a chord to chord, figuring out how changing those chords from major to minor to other ones changes the overall feeling. Because just the other day, I was checking out the Lord of the Rings scores, and Shore moves in thirds a lot, there are no standard chord progressions in those parts, it's very free-form.
So like nice, we have the technology that helps us overcome our ignorance gap, but in the end, that gap is about experience more than musical theory. That's why I rather study actual pieces by Williams, Horner, Shore, than reading books about parallel fifths.
And at the end of the day, when the result is the most important thing, you go listen to Star Wars and realize that maybe your one piece made an impact on people, but it failed in other different categories, like being a fitting part of an overarching narrative, to subtly communicate some things because the structure was so rigid, or your harmonic vocabulary is rather plain to capture what was really going on in the story.
Hm. Like nothing against the guy, but I hope our current situation won't escalate to the state where people like him score the next Star Wars. (Unless they somehow get to the level of Verta-like guys, of course.)
Dunno, I get this whole post-modern thing, it makes sense, yet on the other hand, it shows the pointlessness of it all. 4 days ago I visited our local art gallery here. You literally can't tell whether someone forgot his handbag on a showcase or whether it's the actual exhibit you should admire... There was a projector showing a footage of a girl randomly running and writhing on a meadow. Put's all your f*cking effort to be as good as Goldsmith into perspective.
No wonder the ability to just click midi notes in the piano roll is now the threshold to become a movie composer. It's way more about production rather than composing itself these days, be good at sound-design and mixing and that's basically it.
Art became so democratized, not only due to technology, but our post-modern mindset does this, basically anything can pass as an art now. Is it good, it is bad? I don't know. I personally feel a lot of things is getting more and more retarded. Especially when listening to music or visiting those galleries.
The real question is, can you personally reconcile with that, knowing you suck compared to those old-school guys yet you have the audacity to call yourself a composer and score movies?
I'd be fricking embarrassed to put my shoes on a piedestal and call it an artifact when I know, somewhere, there's a Buonarroti's Pieta on display.
To be fair, I remember visiting some modern art exhibition where there were really interesting paintings that made you really think about them and stuff, and you know how this goes... what if those shoes on a piedestal instil more inside you than the Pieta due to some latent psychological association... Eh.
There's no intrinsic value in anything, or rather, there's some intrinsic value in everything... Does that mean we should settle for being unable to compose like Horner just because... it's too difficult and we can score films even without that skill level anyway?..
It's just me, but f*ck that question, one listen to Wrath of Khan's Epilogue tells me I do want to be as good as that guy even if nobody on this planet except me appreciates that. Even if I should be flipping burgers at McDonalds (which's gonna happen anyway
) while all those producers deem that old-school symphonic notion outdated hiring those so sought after low synth pattern composers to score their next huge budget Captain SuperAwesome-Meh movie.
(Nothing like being catharsistically melodramatic.)
Lol, remember those days when action scenes were scored with pizzicati?! Me neither. Jerry, you madman.