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It depends on the musical context, the dynamic, the tempo and the note lengths. If the tempo/note lengths allow it, I'll use the sfz shorts at lower velocities, but more often than not those samples are too short. Otherwise, I will use the sustain (or even sometimes the marcato patch with the spic overlay off). Be careful not to overlap the notes. If they don't overlap, you'll hear a slight rebow attack at the begining of each which can be convincing at lower velocities (if the notes aren't repeated ones...). You then have to polish the CC1 curves and lower the vibrato to make it convincing. It's not that easy.

I agree that these articulations are missing in most libraries and are the reason I always return to VSL samples even after 15 years... We need détaché, tenuto and "on the bow" articulations with sampled transitions more.
 
Esther Gagné said:
It depends on the musical context, the dynamic, the tempo and the note lengths. If the tempo/note lengths allow it, I'll use the sfz shorts at lower velocities, but more often than not those samples are too short. Otherwise, I will use the sustain (or even sometimes the marcato patch with the spic overlay off). Be careful not to overlap the notes. If they don't overlap, you'll hear a slight rebow attack at the begining of each which can be convincing at lower velocities (if the notes aren't repeated ones...). You then have to polish the CC1 curves and lower the vibrato to make it convincing. It's not that easy.

I agree that these articulations are missing in most libraries and are the reason I always return to VSL samples even after 15 years... We need détaché, tenuto and "on the bow" articulations with sampled transitions more.
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Thank you Esther for some great ideas. I will have a go and let you know. Appreciated.
 
bdr said:
Thank you Esther for some great ideas. I will have a go and let you know. Appreciated.
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You're welcome. After some tests, my best result is as follows:
I deactivate the legato on the sustain and set the Release at around 70. I pull the vibrato crossfade approximately 2/3 down. If I then play subsequent notes at ~90% of their full length, slightly easing in and out with the CC1, I get something pretty close to a tenuto/détaché type note. Also, having a subtly stronger velocity every two notes emulates up and down bows somehow. It sounds better if you have some external reverb over your samples. I Hope this helps!
 
Esther Gagné said:
You're welcome. After some tests, my best result is as follows:
I deactivate the legato on the sustain and set the Release at around 70. I pull the vibrato crossfade approximately 2/3 down. If I then play subsequent notes at ~90% of their full length, slightly easing in and out with the CC1, I get something pretty close to a tenuto/détaché type note. Also, having a subtly stronger velocity every two notes emulates up and down bows somehow. It sounds better if you have some external reverb over your samples. I Hope this helps!
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Do you really bother doing this?? Seems like an awful lot of work for a friggin’ tenuto!
 
Henrik B. Jensen said:
Do you really bother doing this?? Seems like an awful lot of work for a friggin’ tenuto!
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If one automates the legato on/off switch there's no work at all. I just gave a few hints of my settings so Bdr can test it by himself. I don't really see why this would be work, it's just numerical values. :)
 
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Henrik B. Jensen said:
Do you really bother doing this?? Seems like an awful lot of work for a friggin’ tenuto!
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Man, there's people here with like 4,000 tracks in their template, and 3,900 of them haven't felt a human touch! This is small fry compared to that amount of effort o_O

(That said, yeah, I wouldn't even go to this effort but now that they've mentioned it, I'm curious!)
 
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