All respect, but then you're a kinder man than I. Or you have a significantly different idea of what art is (and no, I don't believe it's all subjective, as there are things called educated deductions).
Art to me is that which can stimulate, challenge, and/or resound within a number of people in a deep, consistent, enduring way and from manifold perspectives. Beethoven's 9th, a significant chunk of John William's work, the Beatles, the Sistine...
But again, no offense meant in the slightest toward you or your opinion. I just don't see a good deal of that music being art, it's most often utilitarian.
Ah, the quintessential Liberal Studies debate!
I suppose I would use that as a working definition of "high art". I agree that the criteria of "good" art is definitely objective, but I think of general art (not high art) more as a pure and skilled form of expression (within reason...). Apply any adjectives to "art" and objective criteria arise, but as to the word "art" itself I've encountered as many PhD's agreeing as disagreeing with its subjectivity.
That said, I think I agree with you. Many scores aren't independent artistic works on their own, and
certainly not the "producer/director/studio is terrified of straying from the formula", poor-attempt-to-plagiarize-Hans-Zimmer scores. But many scores
do work as a larger part of something I would consider art, or close to it.
I think more than anything I would hope that there's room for what I would consider a form of "artistic expression", to be judged afterwards by the listener. There seems to be more hope in the video game industry in that regard -- whether or not considered art, there are a good many more experimental, eclectic and interesting scores than one might think, or would likely find in TV. That's good enough for me. There are many amazing scores and pictures I wouldn't consider universal or "high" art, but they're meaningful enough to me to be judged as such, at least on a personal level (i.e. scores and their films: Logan, The Last Samurai, The Revenant, etc; in the game world, Limbo, Bioshock, Amon Tobin's score for Chaos Theory, etc).
But the idea of "copy our temp music" is a repulsive one in my mind, at least for a film or show that warrants attempt at originality. I certainly hope the majority of the game industry isn't like this too.
How's that for a verbose response? And I appreciate your politeness, but no need to be concerned about offense
I've found you courteous and respectful (as I do most of the forum), and I'm happy to be disagreed with.
I've found art (for instance) in some of the music of Cannibal Corpse, to show my partial agreement. Most would completely scoff at that...I doubt the true artist would
I haven't really found it in Cannibal Corpse...but Opeth? Most definitely. As with Gorguts, Wintersun, Beyond Creation (on occasion), among others.