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miket

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I already commented on the video, and so risk repeating myself, but I wanted to say here how great a thing this was for you to organize, and to share with the rest of us. Maybe it's just what the kids call FOMO, or maybe something deeper, but it's had a real effect on me.

I've been too isolated and too static for way too long. This has lit a fire under my ass to finally kick things into gear, to really get involved in "the community," to get myself out there any way I can. I've been coasting along trying to make the music thing happen for years. Time to actually make it happen.
 

DGravel

New Member
Christian, each time I watch your videos, I am thinking how great it would be to have you as a neighbour. We would definitely share a couple of beers (or tea!).
 

erica-grace

Senior Member
"Every day we record or sample is a month of post production! And we recorded for 80 days". That's truly amazing. That's 6 and a half years working on the BBCSO!
How much material gets recorded in a 6-hr day? Let's say two hours. So, you edit and process and do all of the other stuff required to release a product.... it takes 160 hours to process 2 hours or recorded material? Sorry, that does not sound right.
 
How much material gets recorded in a 6-hr day? Let's say two hours. So, you edit and process and do all of the other stuff required to release a product.... it takes 160 hours to process 2 hours or recorded material? Sorry, that does not sound right.
Incorrect I’m afraid. We usually get about 35-40 minutes of final material per hour of session time. Our session day is either 3 x 3h or 4 x 2h so either 8 or 9 hours of recording time per day.
 
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erica-grace

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So, instead of two hours per day, you are getting about 5 1/2 hours per day? Ok, thanks for that.

So 5 1/2 hours (give and take) of material takes 160 hours to process? Which means to process, it takes literally around 30 hours for every one hour? that still doesn't sound right.
 

ism

Senior Member
So, instead of two hours per day, you are getting about 5 1/2 hours per day? Ok, thanks for that.

So 5 1/2 hours (give and take) of material takes 160 hours to process? Which means to process, it takes literally around 30 hours for every one hour? that still doesn't sound right.

so, back of the envelope, take 1h at, say, 10s per sample = 360 samples x 80 mics = 28800 audio files.

Then if you have legato sample there's probably a huge amount of delicate alignments and whatever else ... say 24 legato samples per note, which each need to be aligned and faded smoothly into other notes ....

Anyway, 30 hour then gives you about a budget of about 5 minutes per sample - and I really doubt its even possible to cut and align samples that quickly, so I'm probably way off in the average length of samples.



I used to make extremely low budged radio documentaries. When I started I though it would maybe take three or four hours of work to produce an hour of audio. Turned out 30:1 was far closer to the ration of effort to output that it actually required. So not sure that I'd expect sample libraries would be any easier.

So not saying I know what it takes to make a top flight sample library. But just saying that 1:30 sounds entirely reasonable. Hyperproductive even.
 

Greg

Senior Member
So much fun, everyone was so open and eager to chat. Would do it again in a heartbeat. Thx Christian
 

NoamL

Winter <3
Yep, tons of fun, thanks again for organizing it Christian. Best of success with your LA office and with Spitfire's wider educational initiative.
 

erica-grace

Senior Member
so, back of the envelope, take 1h at, say, 10s per sample = 360 samples x 80 mics = 28800 audio files.

Then if you have legato sample there's probably a huge amount of delicate alignments and whatever else ... say 24 legato samples per note, which each need to be aligned and faded smoothly into other notes ....

Anyway, 30 hour then gives you about a budget of about 5 minutes per sample - and I really doubt its even possible to cut and align samples that quickly, so I'm probably way off in the average length of samples.



I used to make extremely low budged radio documentaries. When I started I though it would maybe take three or four hours of work to produce an hour of audio. Turned out 30:1 was far closer to the ration of effort to output that it actually required. So not sure that I'd expect sample libraries would be any easier.

So not saying I know what it takes to make a top flight sample library. But just saying that 1:30 sounds entirely reasonable. Hyperproductive even.
Thanks. Sorry, but that doesn't add up. Look, I know these things take time, and have alot of energy and effort put into them. And i appreciate what the developers do for the rest of us - have you ever edited and built a library of shorts? You have the original recording in your DAW, you chop the samples (making sure you choose the proper start and end point), you don't process them (remember, SFA said some time back the don't process their samples) you export each individual sample, and you build your Kontakt patch. A few hours of recorded material can be done in one day, if you know what you are doing. Don't believe me? Try it some time. Then there is some scripting (the bulk of which is already done), and some other stuff to do, but that's it - it's not as involved as many seem to think it is. Legatos will take considerably longer, of course, and that will add to the overall average. But it really takes 160 hours to process 51/2 hours of material? Can't be.
 
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