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Bohemian Series Expansions Thread, Cello Expansion 1 Released

Discussion in 'COMMERCIAL Announcements' started by Virharmonic, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. storyteller

    storyteller Senior Member

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    It is a separate download (e.g. two separate instruments), but owners of expansion one have download links to the original library as well as the new, "Expansion 1" library.
     
  2. Virharmonic Tea boy

    Virharmonic Tea boy Active Member

    Hi Lucky,

    Yes - The Violin Expansion 1 contains the original violin patch in the single UFS file.

    Hi Storyteller

    You are correct in terms of the cello - The Cello Expansion 1 contains all new samples (even for the original content, which was re-recorded for expansion 1), so it is separated into original library ufs (one download) and Expansion 1 version (another download).

    As for all our Soul Capture libraries - You do not need the base versions to run the Expanded versions.

    I hope that this clears up any possible confusion ;)
     
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  3. bap_la_so_1

    bap_la_so_1 Prince of All Evil

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    Is there any way to change the new background picture to the old one? (because i want the cello and violin look similar since they come from the same developer)
     
  4. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon KSP Wizard

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    No. I mean... yes, if you use the old version (without exp 1). But within Exp 1, no.


    Looks are not as important as sound ;)
     
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  5. Virharmonic Tea boy

    Virharmonic Tea boy Active Member

    Hi EuropaWill (sorry missed your post earlier)

    The answer to the above is no and yes. The two concepts are simply not compatible when it comes to CC - Any CC crossfading on solo instruments results in nasty phasing (unless phase aligned, which kills the samples instead) and virtual vibrato never matches to the quality of the real vibrato of the performer. However we do have Keyswitches and force keys and these can override the performer and "force them" to use a specific bow type or articulations. For example on the vibratos we don't allow crossfading for the reasons explained above, but we already have vast variety of natural sounding vibratos - Slow on bow legatos have different vibrato to 1/2 speed legatos and of course the 1/4 legatos are almost without vibrato until higher dynamics as there are dynamics in the legatos too. Arcs and midarcs have progressive vibratos which are affected by dynamics as well and Dimins have diminishing vibratos. Sustains have sustained vibrato with intensity varying by their dynamics.

    All our sampling is in "melodic momentum", so the vibrato is matching to how the performer would approach said interval/phrase and dynamic with thought for melodic context, bow pressure, speed ect... Further bow types and legatos are in the works for EXP2 and they will expand on this further. As you can see from above, we are working on capturing the performer and how they would approach said phrase, so with the library containing already around 35k+ samples the variety is vast already, but we still work on adding to it, as capturing a performer demands lot more samples then just recording an instrument itself.

    Hi Bap_la_so_1,

    Changing background is not something the user can do (IE there is no easy way to do that). However the EXP2 of the Violin will update the Violin's GUI to this new model and thus it will be matching pretty soon (once EXP2 for Violin is released)

    Best Regards

    Alex
     
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    Virharmonic Senior Member

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    We have the pleasure to share this lovely track from the very talented Adrien Binet.



    Of course it is featuring non other then our Bohemian Cello :) and a Big thank you to Adrien for sharing with us.

    We hope to complete the tutorials this week and probably add few more demos. Work on the EXP2 for the violin will now continue and we will be also updating the Blog on our site with more info as time goes on.
     
  7. constaneum

    constaneum Senior Member

    I know this isn't related to Bohemian Cello but i really to say i do find the Violin very suitable for Oriental music as well. Here's my attempt on an oriental piece which features Bohemian Violin Exp 1

     
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  8. Quick question. Since this uses UVI and thus needs an ilok license to run, does this mean you can sell the library if you are not satisfied with the results? I must admit I found the improv demo in to be very impressive as a listener, but its impossible to know as a composers if these type of performance algorithms will perform what I intend. It is my understanding that there are ways to "force articulations" as you desire, but without being able to try it out its hard for me to know if its an improvement over my existing tools (VSL solo strings). Wish there was a proper demo for the instrument, or hopefully at the very least a way to resell the license if its turns out to be too frustrating as a composition tool. (users feel free to PM me with your thoughts - would really appreciate it!)
     

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