Leon Portelance
Composer | Songwriter
August 22
Marc, you and I, being friendly, could discuss this more privately, but I think it’s important enough to put it out there.
Clarity-at almost 65, I try to average 4-5 miles a day of fairly strenuous walking-huffing and puffing up steep hills and inclines. I see my doctor (s) regularly for various maladies. I take medications (too many). Still, sometimes I’ll have fries or chips. I’m addicted to popcorn but keep it in check and try to eat the healthiest kind. I have an occasional dessert.
I like Irish whiskey and martinis. I’m not the alcoholic I once was but I still drink too much. In general, I try not to go overboard but try not to deny myself that much either. Middle of the road really-“fuck it...kinda.”
Less "meat" (I assume you mean beef?) and less "processed food" (depending how you define it) is a good idea in general, but not likely to decrease blood pressure.That alone won't do it. On average, reducing salt intake only reduces blood pressure by about 6 - 7 mm Hg.
It needs to be a comprehensive plan that includes more fruits and veggies, less meat, less processed food, little to no alcohol, exercise, and of course no smoking and drugs.
....and these are the people who typically cry when their health care isn't free. Ditto people who stuff their faces with soda and fast food a lot. (etc)If someone goes this way, pls know the consequences. I hate it when patients harm their bodies and expect docs to fix it with meds.
Recebtly I gave this advise: Do what you want but know the consequences and accept them. You smoke ? K, but dont cry when cancer gets you. Also keep in mind your health is not onlh concerning yourself. Treating lung cancer e.g. costs more than all the cigarette taxes a smoker paid his whole life. Not to speak about time spent for them...
Less "meat" (I assume you mean beef?) and less "processed food" (depending how you define it) is a good idea in general, but not likely to decrease blood pressure.
....and these are the people who typically cry when their health care isn't free. Ditto people who stuff their faces with soda and fast food a lot. (etc)
Actually, processed food in general has high sodium content, which is considered a contributor to high blood pressure. So its usually best to cut back if high blood pressure is a problem.Less "meat" (I assume you mean beef?) and less "processed food" (depending how you define it) is a good idea in general, but not likely to decrease blood pressure.
not thinner. Harder. The thing with bad nutrition is, you font have to be fat. You can have screwed up cholesterine and be perfectly thin.Actually, processed food in general has high sodium content, which is considered a contributor to high blood pressure. So its usually best to cut back if high blood pressure is a problem.
And? Even my thin mother eventually had high blood pressure in her late 70's/80's. I was told as you age, the arterial walls get thinner or something.
She never had cholesterol problems that I knew of and ate fairly healthy, except her glass of wine or two a night. She just didn't survive that third bout of cancer.not thinner. Harder. The thing with bad nutrition is, you font have to be fat. You can have screwed up cholesterine and be perfectly thin.
Take care about your best friend. He is the only one who is there for you your whole life. When not mother or girlfriend is there, he always takes care of you. But if you dont care about him at all he is getting tired someday.
Again, define "processed food." Most of the food you buy is processed in some way or other. If you simply mean those frozen meals, yes, many of them (but not all) are high in salt, and fat, and sugar. ugh. But some of them aren't. It's all in reading the labels.Actually, processed food in general has high sodium content, which is considered a contributor to high blood pressure. So its usually best to cut back if high blood pressure is a problem.
? "Except?" A glass or 2 of wine a night is healthy. Or so the experts say. They will probably change their minds in a year or 3.She never had cholesterol problems that I knew of and ate fairly healthy, except her glass of wine or two a night. She just didn't survive that third bout of cancer.
? "Except?" A glass or 2 of wine a night is healthy. Or so the experts say. They will probably change their minds in a year or 3.
Sorry, not true. Or at least a huge oversimplification. Crackers for example vary a great deal in nutrition, including sodium content. They are not inherently "bad" by any means. In fact numerous brands of crackers have a low sodium option. And labeling bad "any food that comes in a package that you can buy in the middle isles of your grocery store" is absurd. Again, one needs to read the labels vs painting things with a broad brushstroke.The "bad" processed foods are things like crackers, chips, pizza, baked goods, basically any food that comes in a package that you can buy in the middle isles of your grocery store.
This is also incorrect or at least a serious oversimplification. Chicken and turkey in particular are quite lean and as for beef there's a huge difference between a fast food burger and a lean cut of steak. As with anything, it's a question of how much you eat and how you prepare it. A good diet is about balance, moderation, and common sense.Meat -- including beef, chicken, pig, turkey etc. is loaded with saturated fat and cholesterol. If you eat it for lunch and dinner every day it will eventually clog your arteries.
Marc, you and I, being friendly, could discuss this more privately, but I think it’s important enough to put it out there.
Clarity-at almost 65, I try to average 4-5 miles a day of fairly strenuous walking-huffing and puffing up steep hills and inclines. I see my doctor (s) regularly for various maladies. I take medications (too many). Still, sometimes I’ll have fries or chips. I’m addicted to popcorn but keep it in check and try to eat the healthiest kind. I have an occasional dessert.
I like Irish whiskey and martinis. I’m not the alcoholic I once was but I still drink too much. In general, I try not to go overboard but try not to deny myself that much either. Middle of the road really-“fuck it...kinda.”
From now on, please submit all health and nutrition questions to bill5. He knows more about the subject than any dietician or doctor. If you know anything about health and wellness, you are wrong, and he is right.
And here's another tip kids -- smoking is not bad, it's just about balance, moderation, and common sense.
Love back atcha, and my ear is open for romantic travails (for about 15 min, then I’ll need a drink).Well, I f*ckin' love ya, so you'd best be on good form to hear me whine about romantic woes on my next visit.
So instead of owning up to making a mistake or backing your inaccurate "facts," you instead decide to have a hissy and make childish snide comments. Speaks for itself.From now on, please submit all health and nutrition questions to bill5. He knows more about the subject than any dietician or doctor. If you know anything about health and wellness, you are wrong, and he is right.
Given your track record, I'm hardly surprised you posted that either.And here's another tip kids -- smoking is not bad, it's just about balance, moderation, and common sense.
Yeah that must be it. It couldn't be that what I said is simply correct and I think posting false health and nutrition information on the net is irresponsible and should be called out and corrected, since someone might be naive or foolish enough to believe that false information and it could be detrimental to their health.From this thread, I get the impression that bill5 just wants to argue. If he is going to put that much energy into defending crackers, he must have an axe to grind.