Best Service / Sonuscore's THE ORCHESTRA Update Coming 6/19

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  1. dzilizzi

    dzilizzi I know nothing

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    I haven't tried it, but you can set the midi out to record to another instrument. This sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I tried it with my S-keys piano and got a lot of gibberish mixed among the notes. But this seems to just be a basic arp engine, not something that adds pedal noises and stuff.
     
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  2. SoNowWhat?

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    Fun piece but I kept thinking those horns might have to be circular breathing for some of those phrases.
    :faint:

    ;)

    Did you use other libraries? Was the guitar live or sampled?

    The lack of midi export has always made me think twice. I did use the Best Service demo app to try it briefly. It’s a bit limiting that way but gives you an idea and it was good fun to noodle about. Would be even better with midi export for the engine.
     
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  3. SoNowWhat?

    SoNowWhat? realised I can type here

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    Ahhh. Very good. Ish.
    Do you get each note in the ostinato or does it just export as a chord?
    Thank you.
     
  4. dzilizzi

    dzilizzi I know nothing

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    okay, tried it and it didn't really work that well. But really? They aren't anything you can't program. It just takes a bit.
     
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  5. jbuhler

    jbuhler Senior Member

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    No, it’s not hard, but it does take time, and so it’s not as efficient as a sketching tool as it could be.
     
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  6. Virtuoso

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    I think it's a fun library to improvise stuff with or to use as a launch pad for ideas that will later get replaced. Don't expect it to be a deep-sampled multi-mic bag of articulations - it is only 6.8GB after all. Not in the same class as the Symphobias, but might be worth $199 for the inspiration that the arps bring.

    Tip: You can make it sound a LOT better by ditching the onboard reverb and using something smoother and less ringy like Seventh Heaven or Symphony.
     
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  7. Fleer

    Fleer No Method

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    Even on sale, $200 seems a lot for 6.8GB.
     
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  8. szurcio

    szurcio Still searching

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    Any alternatives for orchestral arpeggios and ostinatos? I don't need another sketching orchestral library now. I wish there was an easy Kontakt-compatible MIDI tool that would let me make arpeggios with what I already have (Kontakt version of EWQLSO Symphonic Orchestra and Symphobias)
     
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  9. Satorious

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    Haha, yeah - this was a quick throw together just for fun - Bond songs are all about holding notes for a ridiculous amount of time aren't they (ideally by a Welsh vocalist at the end). I definitely used a couple of other libraries, I can't recall which ones - but Orchestra is definitely really prominent (and I didn't try to hide it too much). No live stuff, think the guitar was Orange Tree's Texas Twang.
     
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  10. Geoff Grace

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    If we were talking about the sample content alone, I'd completely agree; but for me, the selling point is the engine driving the sample content. At this sale price, I think it's at least worth considering. If time is money and this saves you time, it could be worth spending $200 up front to save on the back end.

    But of course, YMMV.

    Best,

    Geoff
     
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  11. szurcio

    szurcio Still searching

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    I think Symphony Essentials in my Komplete Ultimate also has an arpeggiator - I haven't played with it much.
     
  12. Wally Garten

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    "-baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall!"
     
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  13. unclecheeks

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    If you're using Ableton Live, I have a good one! Has a sequencer to draw your arp pattern, and it also works polyphonically, unlike most other arpeggiators.
    http://tetmusic.com/arpeggio_designer_features.html

    /end shameless plug
     
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  14. Ledwick

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    "Kirnu the Arpeggiator" is a nice free arp. "Kirnu Cream" is the paid version and a different product.

    I think this link downloads the free version. http://www.artovaarala.com/download/download.php
     
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  15. Michael Antrum

    Michael Antrum Only the good die young....

    Yes, but in it's defence it does weigh 7.3 Kilos....
     
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  16. ScoreFace

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    I doubt that any other arpeggiator could do a similar job as The Orchestra does. Anyway, the thing is that they use 3 separate arpeggiators plus 2 envelopes at the same time and the presets mostly combine 5 different slots with stacc repetitions, arpeggios and sustains, so it is pretty complex programming to get the impression of a whole orchestral section playing little arrangements.

    I bought TO last December and I really love it - now being on sale for 199€, it would be a no brainer for me, as it contains all orchestral instruments plus even choir - with the engine and their fantastic presets, it is the best all-in-one solution that I can imagine:).
     
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  17. Banquet

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    I am tempted! Does it fit well with other libraries?

    Edit: although, I wonder if I should spend more time with the ostinato tab in spitfire libraries which seem to be similar in what they do..
     
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  18. ScoreFace

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    For me yes, it does fit very well with other orchestral libs - TO is a little rough sounding, very realistic and not over-clean, I like that:). And it sounds great when I layer it with other (more polished) orchestral Libs like Berlin Series, Cinesamples or Spitfire.

    When working with TO, I normally start a composition with some colours (mixed ensemble patches like for example FULL sustain Strings + Brass) and play around a little. Or I choose one of the full orchestral presets and play something with the rhythms. Later I add single nkis (French Horns, Flute...) and play melodies or motives, then I add percussion, choir, or other stuff, until I get a good impression of my idea.

    When I'm happy with a sketch, I often layer with other orchestral libraries (Spitfire, Cinesamples, OT) to get a fuller sound.

    For me, this is the best workflow: starting simple with full sounding TO presets or colors, then polishing everything by layering or exchanging parts with other libs. It's much less frustrating than starting with a few thin single patches and spending hours to get an arrangement together without knowing if it works or not. But this is only me working - it may be totally different for everyone else :D
     
  19. dsblais

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    True, although what I find to be the real drawback of TO is that sustain pedals apparently don’t work with it. It’s a lot harder to use it for a background live with another keyboard or guitar if you need to keep a chord held. ;)
     
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    TigerTheFrog I'm supposed to be working now.

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    As I struggle with the decision of whether to buy this, I have found these brief reviews from @reutunes, @donbodin, and @ashtongleckman to be more helpful than the Sonuscore videos.







    There is also this much more in-depth two-part treatment from @Dirk Ehlert, which I admit I haven't watched yet.



     
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