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Best Electric Guitar Vst for 100 dollar or lower?

DarkestShadow

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Any tips for that price range?

This is the kind of music I would write with it, btw:

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Squier Deluxe Stratocaster, about $300 new.

ps use the Geartalk sub forum next time please.
Ahh... but I'm talking about samples. :P That's why I put it in sample talk.
Changed the title so there isn't more confusion.
 

gamma-ut

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In terms of the core guitar sound, you may well already have something usable in a regular sample library - the first example has a ton of chorus and delay on it. It's surprising how good basic samples sound once run through guitar-style FX, amp and cab. The problem is with the playing style.

If you have a grasp of how chords and scales work on a fretboard you can do a reasonable job of simulation with the straightforward melody and chords, and even the bends with the pitch wheel. But you quickly get to the point that it's actually easier to do with a real guitar and amp simulator – and learning the fretboard means you have a better chance of not playing things that sound like a keyboard instrument. There a songwriting idioms that come from noodling on a guitar that simply don't come naturally on a keyboard. So, you wind up learning the guitar anyway.
 
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In terms of the core guitar sound, you may well already have something usable in a regular sample library - the first example has a ton of chorus and delay on it. It's surprising how good basic samples sound once run through guitar-style FX, amp and cab. The problem is with the playing style.

If you have a grasp of how chords and scales work on a fretboard you can do a reasonable job of simulation with the straightforward melody and chords, and even the bends with the pitch wheel. But you quickly get to the point that it's actually easier to do with a real guitar and amp simulator – and learning the fretboard means you have a better chance of not playing things that sound like a keyboard instrument. There a songwriting idioms that come from noodling on a guitar that simply don't come naturally on a keyboard. So, you wind up learning the guitar anyway.
I mean, I sure am interested in learning some more instruments at some point. I get most of my ideas from just playing and hitting a few nice notes in a row by accident and the going from there. Thus I think I would get even more and different ideas when playing instruments other than the keyboard.
I still want my cool sample gtr at the moment. :P
I think I found a nice one here - only 59$. http://indiginus.com/renegade.html
 

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I mean, I sure am interested in learning some more instruments at some point. I get most of my ideas from just playing and hitting a few nice notes in a row by accident and the going from there. Thus I think I would get even more and different ideas when playing instruments other than the keyboard.
I still want my cool sample gtr at the moment. :P
I think I found a nice one here - only 59$
yeah, that´s a good one, too :) . Been thinking about getting that one. But I hope for another 60% off at OTS this summer.....
I don´t get it when people ask about a vst and get answers like "learn the instrument".
I don´t play the keyboard but people don´t tell me to learn how to play the piano when I ask for a piano vst.
 

gamma-ut

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I don´t get it when people ask about a vst and get answers like "learn the instrument".

I based my answer on the first example the OP posted. Although that might be doable using a plugin rather than a guitar, you'd have to think like a guitarist to get a lot of the licks and flourishes in order to do a similar thing and have it sound like a guitar playing. And it would be way easier on a guitar (short of using a phrase library).

The second one would probably be realisable using something like Shreddage. But there's no single plugin that's going to do both effectively unless you've got a good grasp of idiomatic guitar playing. The irony is, is you have the idiom down, a stock sample library will go a long way. The dedicated plugins do very well on arpeggios and strums – but the first example strays a long way from what they do.
 

KarlHeinz

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About Indignus (not only Renegade, but that is REALLY great if you are getting crazy with keyswitches and want something that does it "on its own"): I was getting :shocked: in all this ongoing black friday-winter-christmas-winter-new year-winter....sale when I just listened to Renegade (dobro kind) and just bought while it was NOT on any sale cause it was just a sound I was missing and build in a way I could use it....They just make great, useable stuff :2thumbs:
 
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I based my answer on the first example the OP posted. Although that might be doable using a plugin rather than a guitar, you'd have to think like a guitarist to get a lot of the licks and flourishes in order to do a similar thing and have it sound like a guitar playing. And it would be way easier on a guitar (short of using a phrase library).

The second one would probably be realisable using something like Shreddage. But there's no single plugin that's going to do both effectively unless you've got a good grasp of idiomatic guitar playing. The irony is, is you have the idiom down, a stock sample library will go a long way. The dedicated plugins do very well on arpeggios and strums – but the first example strays a long way from what they do.
Totally get it. We are still a log way away from genuine realism (if you have an ear for details) in samples.
It was more of a rough guide of what I'm looking for. so people know that I don't want to write country music or funky ska music.
 

gamma-ut

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...so people know that I don't want to write country music or funky ska music.

Ironically, those are the kind of genres where the heavily scripted libraries do their magic.

For that lyrical, 80s-lead Edge/Guthrie type stuff, you might be surprised what you can get out of rompler-class samples fed into something like Amplitube or Guitar Rig. The core clean-electric samples will sound weedy as anything but fed through a set of pedals and an amp sounds stand a chance of passing as a guitar, particularly with a healthy slice of skream distortion, with the right spread of notes. Map mod wheel or foot pedal to decay for simulating palm mutes, never pitchbend down (or have it so it's +2 up, -12 down) and you've got something that will do in a lot of cases except for a really clean sound.
 
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kitekrazy

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yeah, that´s a good one, too :) . Been thinking about getting that one. But I hope for another 60% off at OTS this summer.....
I don´t get it when people ask about a vst and get answers like "learn the instrument".
I don´t play the keyboard but people don´t tell me to learn how to play the piano when I ask for a piano vst.

That's so a guitar doesn't sound like a keyboard.
 

Casiquire

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I have to give a thumbs up for Shreddage. There's very little it can't do.

And no, I don't understand why someone would say "just learn to play the guitar". We're in a sampling forum! And the idea that the suggestion is made so that the result doesn't sound like a keyboard doesn't hold up either since you could say that about any non keyboard instrument. I don't see a lot of "just learn it" comments when someone asks for an oboe library.
 

stixman

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I picked up a squire clone by encore with stand and bag in a carboot sale for princely sum of £25 added MidiGuitar 2 which works great! :2thumbs:
 
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