Best double bass for jazz? (sampled or modelled)

Jonas Hallstrom

Active Member
Hey all!

Which is your favorite library for double bass (pizz). Basically a traditional sounding walking bass library?
Thanks in advance!
 

DSmolken

Senior Member
Premier Sound Factory's Acoustic Bass seems well liked around here, though I don't know if it's still available. I have Ample's ABU which sounds nice if you don't need it to get too dirty and growly, but I always end up using my own free Meatbass samples.

Has anybody tried VSL's Upright (as opposed to Double) Bass? Seems like their take on the jazz bass sound, and I know their brushed drum kit sounds very good.
 

SoundChris

Active Member
I got a few Jazz upright basses - also VSL Upright Bass, Acoustic Samples The Upright and Premier Soundfactory Acoustic Bass 2.

The bass I use mostly is the Acoustic Samples one because it just feels best in a lot of situations and also gives a good control over the articulations. Unfortunately the demos dont show the strengths of the instrument well IMO.

I used the Acoustic Samples Upright in these 2 pieces - dont know if its too much burried in the arrangement:



I also like the sound of the Premier Soundfactory bass 2 - there are so many nice little details in the recordings. The downside is that you dont have much control and also that this developer doesn´t even thinks it would be necessary to even have ANY GUI - he also doesn´t seem to respond to messages. A guy here on VI-Control even took the time and created a nice GUI and offered this developer to just use it. No reply. A very talented engineer from Okinawa if I remember correctly, but as it seems quite shy.

Btw - even the very standard factory double bass in logic pro isn´t that bad. I used quite much when I started making music:


There are fancier basses out there, but for a bass that comes with the DAW its really not so bad IMO.
 
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synthpunk

Senior Member
There is a very good GUI for the Premier Bass here btw.
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/psf-acoustic-bass-premier-2-free-gui.50343/

@SoundChris Love the warmth of your later works. Great job.

And I really love how a thread like this reminds me how the bass really works with drums to drive, walk, and swing jazz.

I got a few Jazz upright basses - also VSL Upright Bass, Acoustic Samples The Upright and Premier Soundfactory Acoustic Bass 2.


The bass I use mostly is the Acoustic Samples one because it just feels best in a lot of situations and also gives a good control over the articulations. Unfortunately the demos dont show the strengths of the instrument well IMO.

I used the Acoustic Samples Upright in these 2 pieces - dont know if its too much burried in the arrangement:



I also like the sound of the Premier Soundfactory bass 2 - there are so many nice little details in the recordings. The downside is that you dont have much control and also that this developer doesn´t even thinks it would be necessary to even have ANY GUI - he also doesn´t seem to respond to messages. A guy here on VI-Control even took the time and created a nice GUI and offered this developer to just use it. No reply. A very talented engineer from Okinawa if I remember correctly, but as it seems quite shy.

Btw - even the very standard factory double bass in logic pro isn´t that bad. I used quite much when I started making music:


There are fancier basses out there, but for a bass that comes with the DAW its really not so bad IMO.
 
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DSmolken

Senior Member
There are fancier basses out there, but for a bass that comes with the DAW its really not so bad IMO.
Yeah, given the nature of walking lines it does not take a fancy bass to do a decent job. As a bassist I am allowed to be opinionated about this, heh.

You don't need round robins because you generally won't play the same note two times in a row, don't need things like vibrato or legato (though the latter can be nice occasionally), and dynamic range isn't hugely wide, so a few mp to ff layers will do. You don't even need high notes sampled, as walking lines will rarely even reach the octave on the G string. It is good to have some percussive noises, but short notes with low velocity are a decent substitute in a mix. But it's really important to have close miking, and the right sound.
 
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Jonas Hallstrom

Jonas Hallstrom

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Thanks all for the great tips! And thanks to Chris and Polkamusic for your wonderful music!
Btw what drum libraries did you guys use on the tracks?
 

Ifness

Member
I have Straight Ahead Jazz Bass, Fluffy Audio's Simple Jazz Bass, and Modwheel's The Lowdown. They are all very good libraries, but for jazz pieces the one I use most often is the Straight Ahead Jazz Bass. With control over two microphones and a direct input setting, it has the most flexibility for getting the right sound I need. What it most lacks are specific, key-switchable slide articulations. Pitch wheel bends are the only option. Fluffy Audio's Simple Jazz Bass has a key-switch slide and a key-switch legato for intervals a minor third or less (if I remember correctly). It also had a nice price. But in the end I prefer the sound of the Straight Ahead Jazz Bass.
 

Iskra

Active Member
I bought ABU this xmas after a long search for a good acoustic bass and couldn't be happier. I was looking for a contemporary sound though ( Marc Johnson or Avishai Cohen sound). For that, ABU is amazing.
For walking lines, I also have back beat bass which I used a lot in tthe past. For me, both are complementary to each other, very different character, so I'm covered in that department now. :)