Behringher X Touch One and Cubase

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  1. jononotbono

    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    So, I’ve Been thinking about buying a single fader unit and predominantly going to be using it with Cubase but will also want to use it with Pro Tools as well. I’m just wondering about the X Touch One? Is it any good?

    I’m likely to buy an X Touch Compact for Midi CCs so I was thinking the X Touch One would be a nice matching fit as they fit together with the compact but if it isn’t very good then I’ll look at something else like the Presonus Faderport (it definitely works with multiple DAWs).

    Thanks for your advice

    Jono
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    I’ve been reading that it doesn’t follow track selection when you click on a track in a DAW?!? Can anyone confirm that? I know the bigger X Touch has to be manually banked but if the single fader doesn’t follow track selection then there really is no value in one of these for me.
     
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  3. GuitarG

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    Hey Jono.
    I´m in the same situation as you. Need a single fader which follows track selection in a big template.
    I was doubting between the Faderport (although I´ve read that the new one doesn´t follow track selection in Cubase, but not 100% sure) and the CC121 (which I´m sure you checked out?) but didn´t know the X touch compact also follows track selection, so curious what others have to say about this.
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Sorry I wrote a typo. I meant to say doesn’t follow (which is what I’ve read) haha

    Probably just gonna get a faderport v2. Seems to be a good choice... but yet again another piece of plastic sitting on the desk. I like the tidyiness of the Compace and the One sitting together. Modern life huh
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    The CC121 is a great option but I want a single fader unit to work with multiple DAWs and the CC121 is just for Steinberg.
     
  6. pmountford

    pmountford Active Member

    I'm waiting to hear whether Behringer do manage to find a solution to channel following on the XTouch One. Looks a great piece of kit for the money but manual banking in Cubase means it's not for me. Back in Nov last year they had a firmware upgrade but this didn't provide this solution - so it's positive that they're listening (discussed briefly on Gearslutz). As for Faderport 2, that's using Mackie protocol unlike the original Faderport which I think had it's own bespoke driver to circumvent this channel detection issue. So the Faderport 2 is a step backwards for Cubase users. It's crazy there is no solution (other that Eucon Artist range and the CC121 - that I'm aware of) after so many years. I had a CC121 years ago but it packed up and is way too expensive for what it is and the buttons and jog wheel IMHO are, well, meh...
     
  7. Grégory Betton

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    I know that might not help you, but the X-Touch One I've received a few weeks ago works like a charm with Logic Pro X.

    Is there any free Cubase version I could download to try it for you?
     
  8. GuitarG

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    Looks like a nice unit but are you sure the new faderport follows track selection in Cubase?
    I know the original can with a driver you have to download of their website but as far as I’ve read, the v2 cannot do this
    I’d happily be proven wrong as it’s way cheaper as the CC121
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    No I’m not sure at all. I guess v1 is the one to get then? Hmmm
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    I believe there’s an option in Logic that you select in preferences to follow track selection. I’m not very up with Logic so not 100% sure but it’s something I have read.
     
  11. Grégory Betton

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    Well, I might have checked it beforehand because it appeared to be automatic to me. You said you are using multiple DAWs. Which one other than Cubase?
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Pro Tools and Ableton and occasionally Reaper at the minute. But I’ll use whatever is necessary when working with people.
     
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  13. colony nofi

    colony nofi Active Member

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    I might be able to help with some up-to-date info on Presonus Faderport V2.

    It definitely does NOT follow the selected track in Cubase / Nuendo. It ONLY uses the Mackie Protocol, which restricts this behaviour to the currently selected bank of 8 faders that the controller is working with. (It is all to do with the inner workings of MC!)

    So ppl are right - V1 *did* work due to custom drivers. Presonus has chosen not to go this route with V2 and as such, the feature is no longer available. And the alternatives for large sessions (using the rotary encoder or selection buttons to work your way thru the session) are a huge time suck / take you out of creative mode / will drive you crazy. Within 10 minutes.

    The only suggested hardware I could confirm worked are Eucon enabled devices (and I've recently setup my mix in an interesting way...) and the CC121. Thats it.
    I have hopes for the CME single fader controller - time will tell if they have managed a software workaround, or if this is somethine we can do using BOME or similar.

    And for anyone that is interested - the Avid Artist Mix *can* be setup using BOME / a few little tricks in your template - so that say 4 faders are non motorized CC controllers, 3 control some dedicated channels and the final one follows your currently selected track. It took me a while, but it really is straight forward once you get your head around the issues / how the faders work. BOME is your friend for lots of these things. MAX8 could equally be employed if you are that way inclined.

    B.
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Thanks for clearing this up. Why do Developers use Mackie Protocol? Must be a licensing cost or something. It’s clearly terrible and useless if it doesn’t follow track selection. I think I’m just gonna save up for an Avid Artist Mix then. Lot more money but at least it will just work with all DAWs.
     
  15. Audio Birdi

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    I think the Artist series becomes unsupported this year or next year on Avid’s support list of hardware so do double check that out just in case.
     
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    jononotbono Luke Johnson

    Really? Typical.
     
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  18. samphony

    samphony Senior Member

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    I have a Presonus Faderport v1 and it banks in cubase. The benefit of a eucon enabled controller is that you are able to switch between multiple apps running at the same time on the same computer or network. I can recommend the PT Comtrol app for iPad. Using it daily.

    Also as a tip. If someone is using a mackie control enabled controller like the faderport with pro tools just hold control+shift when clicking on a track and your controller will auto bank!
     
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  19. benmrx

    benmrx Senior Member

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    I use the control+shift method everyday in PT with a C24. I also used to do the same with the original FaderPort in PT. I’ve always wondered if that key combo would work in Cubase.
     
  20. colony nofi

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    Sadly it does not.
     

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