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Bass Guitar Library with double tracking ?

nuyo

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I'm looking for a Bass Guitar Library that includes Double Tracking.
It would also be nice if the Library includes Distorted and just slightly amped Bass Guitars.
 

bill45

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Impact sound works Shreddage bass 2and Shreddage bass precision.
There is a free version of the precision.The low notes on the precision(low B string do not sustaian vary well)
 

Mike Fox

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What kind of music are you doing that requires double tracked bass guitars?

That's not very common.

Eurobass and djinn bass are the industry standard for doing heavy shit if that's what you're after, even though they aren't double tracked.
 
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nuyo

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What kind of music are you doing that requires double tracked bass guitars?

That's not very common.

Eurobass and djinn bass are the industry standard for doing heavy shit if that's what you're after, even though they aren't double tracked.

It's for sound design, Trailer Music, Cinematic Music. I want a wide sounding bass, and not just a mono bass.
 

jsnleo

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Don’t know if there is any bass library that includes double tracking. What about double tracking with a regular bass library and not quantizing it? Or maybe use some effects?
 

KarlHeinz

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Beat me by seconds :)

+1 for Shreddage 3 Abyss, I even use this for some ambient stuff, great presets, really wide athmospheric sounds possible
 

Trash Panda

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AmpleSound started building in bass rig emulations into their plugins for bass and guitars. Some of the guitars have a doubling effect built in, but I haven't seen it on the basses. You could always do the transpose/pitch shift trick to achieve this manually.
 

MartinH.

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Don’t know if there is any bass library that includes double tracking. What about double tracking with a regular bass library and not quantizing it? Or maybe use some effects?

That's not the same and can cause phasing issues. But you could use the transposition trick - transpose one bass 2 semitones down and transpose its midi data 2 semitones up, then hardpan both basses left and right.
For things you can't transpose that way, there is a double tracking emulation here (win only I think)
 

jsnleo

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That's not the same and can cause phasing issues. But you could use the transposition trick - transpose one bass 2 semitones down and transpose its midi data 2 semitones up, then hardpan both basses left and right.
For things you can't transpose that way, there is a double tracking emulation here (win only I think)

Is this double tracking we’re talking about the same as used for recording guitars? Isn’t taking advantage of phasing issues to create a wider image the purpose of double tracking? Sorry I’m a guitarist I don’t have any guitar/bass libraries so I don’t know with a sample library if it’d work or not.
 

jsnleo

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That's not the same and can cause phasing issues. But you could use the transposition trick - transpose one bass 2 semitones down and transpose its midi data 2 semitones up, then hardpan both basses left and right.
For things you can't transpose that way, there is a double tracking emulation here (win only I think)

Doesn’t the transposition trick creates intervals instead of the double tracking effect? And the plugin should be similar to Waves Abbey Road Reel ADT if not the same. It creates the double tracking effect exactly by manipulating phasing issues.
 
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Doesn’t the transposition trick creates intervals instead of the double tracking effect? And the plugin should be similar to Waves Abbey Road Reel ADT if not the same. It creates the double tracking effect exactly by manipulating phasing issues.

The transposition trick makes sure that you have 2 notes at the same pitch but not the same recording. So you can pan one left and one right. Creates a wider stereo image.
 

jsnleo

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The transposition trick makes sure that you have 2 notes at the same pitch but not the same recording. So you can pan one left and one right. Creates a wider stereo image.

If he meant 2 semitones up and down instead of cents, it’d be Bb, C, D if it’s in key of C, or D, E, F#.
 

MartinH.

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Doesn’t the transposition trick creates intervals instead of the double tracking effect? And the plugin should be similar to Waves Abbey Road Reel ADT if not the same. It creates the double tracking effect exactly by manipulating phasing issues.
If he meant 2 semitones up and down instead of cents, it’d be Bb, C, D if it’s in key of C, or D, E, F#.

For example: you play the C sample on the left bass, you play the D sample on the right bass, but you pitch the right bass down 2 semi tones, so it sounds like a C.

And the plugin should be similar to Waves Abbey Road Reel ADT if not the same. It creates the double tracking effect exactly by manipulating phasing issues.
I don't know that one, but it could be. Plugins that simulate double tracking do push mono signals out of phase to make them wider, that's true. My concern with the method you suggested (2 performances on the same instrument) was that if the instrument doesn't have round robins or velocity layers, so that every note is the same sample on both instances, you'll create very unnatural phasing effects that change per note (based on the time difference between triggering the note on both instances) instead of a more consistent phasing effect from a dedicated plugin, or better yet proper double tracked samples. If the instrument at least has velocity layers, you can try using a different velocity layer on each track and adjusting with effects to get them to sound more similar. But the "transposition trick" probably works the best if you don't have an easier way to avoid round robin "collisions" between 2 instances of the same instrument.
 

bill45

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Our Evolution Roundwound Bass and Flatwound Bass libraries have up to quadruple tracking along with adjustable timing humanization between the tracks. You can even send the tracks out to separate audio outputs if you want even more control.
These are real good !!Easy to use.I like the approach to double tracking. Just one click for separate outputs.
 

ned3000

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If you just want to "stereoize" the bass, put it through a short delay (10-20 ms.), dry on one side 100% on the other. That usually sounds pretty wide.
 
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