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muziksculp

Senior Member
Are you, like, expecting this for an urgent project?
No, I'm not, and I have many other string libraries, but that's not the point here.

We are discussing the release of a new Strings Library that has an estimated release date of end of Jan. if it is not on time, then it will be out in Feb. As if I'm the only one here who wants to see MSS released ASAP. I don't get it.
 

Vik

Senior Member
Maybe, just maybe, the developers sometimes launch their products in ways which will trigger long threads on forums – maybe over weeks or more; threads which boost the interest in and focus on an upcoming product. And I don't blame them, they need to make money like everyone else, espeifcally nowadays. But as long as the word 'estimated' is in there, I assume that there will be delays.

If I should choose between 'we always keep a promise about release date' and 'we always wait with releasing a library until we have sorted out all the stuff we need to fix', I'd definitely go for the latter – by large margins. And that goes for demos and walkthroughs too.

Besides, we have seen libraries that are better demonstrated by user examples than company demos, and also seen demos which sound quite good even with libraries which struggles with some unresolved issues. And since the quality of the demos demos can brake it or make it for sample libraries, I actually hope they take the time they need – because sometimes, when I've heard disappointing demos which are followed up by improved demos later/demos with an improved version of the library, I don't always check those updates. So personally, I guess I – if the estimated release date for the library and demos end of January – kind of expect mid-March (for companies that are serious about fine-tuning and bugfixes).
 

maestro2be

Senior Member
I am quite sure everyone here agrees with you and wants it released as well. I would just think that as a library developer, all the comments here are annoying as hell and pestering and would drive me to never give you anything again until the day it's released. It's no wonder some companies do that. It's impossible to keep up with all the negativity that surrounds them the moment they open their mouths.

But on the other side, I see the cause lol. I mean, I really want these strings to be released as well and tempting me with how good they sound so far has me definitely wanting an instant buy. I personally feel that it's sometimes best to just let people focus on what they're doing and let them finish. At the same time, it does sometimes help to know what people want to navigate things accordingly. It's a tough call lol.

I don't know about you, but I run teams of people from US soil to foreign countries and it's incredibly distracting to have management from every team constantly nagging me for updates on things they have already been told 100 times. Yet, they literally want to hear every day before release that yup, we're still good. It's unhealthy and doesn't help productivity. acknowledging the person and giving them what they want only makes it worse because they never stop.

Do you want them here all day answering these nonstop questions and making videos or do you want them to get the library finished? Me, I know I want both lol but, I feel like letting them capitalize on the time they have will ensure they are able to maximize that time and deliver what they are saying/promising. I mean do you think they somehow forgot since the last time they told us? They know what they said and they know what deadline they set. I for one would rather let them have the short time they have left to try to pull through and get it done instead of blasting them with negativity all day every day. Just my opinion for what that's worth.
 

bvaughn0402

Active Member
Whenever it is out, I'll be there to buy it ... I love all the "extras" this can do. I just hope the main string sound lives up to what we've seen so far.
 

Evans

Guitarist; orchestral VI fan
If I should choose between 'we always keep a promise about release date' and 'we always wait with releasing a library until we have sorted out all the stuff we need to fix', I'd definitely go for the latter – by large margins.
I'm with you, except for when there's a push for pre-orders or subscription to a service and a subsequent delay.

That's not the case here, but it is elsewhere.
 

WinterEmerald

New Member
So, is this library not complete as far as development is concerned ?

Are they still fine-tuning it ?

Has it been sent to NI for encoding, or not yet. If it is not completed yet, that means they have not yet sent it for NI encoding, which means it won't be out this month, maybe Feb. then ?
Looking at their answer which was "We're doing our best", it's either going to be a case of it being done in time for the end of January, or it's going to go into February. Thinking about it further, we can assume it's not 100% done yet, though obviously in excellent shape since they said they can dedicate time to videos.

Also, I obviously want them to release a product they are happy with and I'd personally want to buy the best possible version of it. It's only disappointing for me and I'd gather all of us, because we obviously are just so damn excited.
 

novaburst

Senior Member
So if I'm looking at this situation as optimistically as possible then I am in agreement, I think them taking their time with videos and demos is possibly due to the fact they really want to make sure they are literally PERFECT (based on their standards). We've all been waiting for this library for years, so it makes sense that them releasing actual demos showcases as good as it can be, as we all have super high expectations, and they want to ensure the maximum commercial potential by not showing disappointing demos.

This is my optimistic take on it, but I can't help but be worried!
I think library development are like words once released it will come with all the good stuff but also the bad issue's and you cant really take it back

Ok maybe i can apologize if i said a bad word to you but it will still leave a bad taste in your mind but over time you will get over it.

With a library when there are issues weather by mistake or a cant be bothered attitude it is very hard to say sorry as people have spent their hard earned cash and that is very difficult to deal with.

i am guessing a release perhaps the middle of this year giving we are not in normal times and the time we are living in effects every one in different ways
 

WinterEmerald

New Member
I think library development are like words once released it will come with all the good stuff but also the bad issue's and you cant really take it back

Ok maybe i can apologize if i said a bad word to you but it will still leave a bad taste in your mind but over time you will get over it.

With a library when there are issues weather by mistake or a cant be bothered attitude it is very hard to say sorry as people have spent their hard earned cash and that is very difficult to deal with.

i am guessing a release perhaps the middle of this year giving we are not in normal times and the time we are living in effects every one in different ways
I do certainly understand that they wouldn't want to release a library until they're 100% happy with it and neither would I do it any other way if I was a developer. On the same vein, if I'm going to spend money on something, I want it to be worth it. We're all just excited about this.
 

Noeticus

Motion Picture Producer
If MSS does not already do this, I would like to see the articulation detail name when pressing a key etc. on their aleatoric patches.

When watching the aleatoric video, the voice over tells what some of them are, but I do not see it appear in the MSS GUI.

If the manual lists these details then that would be nice as well.

:)
 

maestro2be

Senior Member
If MSS does not already do this, I would like to see the articulation detail name when pressing a key etc. on their aleatoric patches.

When watching the aleatoric video, the voice over tells what some of them are, but I do not see it appear in the MSS GUI.

If the manual lists these details then that would be nice as well.

:)
I think that's something I would find useful as well.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
They could always go the Abbey ONE route...

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Hehe.. Yes, so far no legatos have been shown, We are still in the safety zone, but they will eventually have to show them if they want to sell this library, and then a flood of VI-C Legato comments will follow.

Oooh It's a bit Bumpy here, and a little Bumpy there, No, No, it's Not Bumpy at all, OH.. I heard a Bump here, No it's not, it's as smooth as silk, ...etc. etc. :P
 

Kevinside

Active Member
So Sample Libraries have found their conclusion in the video game world...
Release Date announced...then delay...then delay...then delay...and then another delay...
EW is the leader of this with HWOpus, which should be released shortly after their absolutely gorgeous presentation at Namm,LOL... And MSS follow this....

Their fault is to present us a release date in the first place...
Better work out everything and then go to the public...but to announce a release date?... In most cases, it never worked in the past...

And don´t blame the people in the forums, who are angry then... Its not their fault...cause if a company does everything in marketing with a release date...People believe it...And if all this promise was a lie, people can get upset...and i understand that....
 
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maestro2be

Senior Member
So Sample Libraries have found their conclusion in the video game world...
Release Date announced...then delay...then delay...then delay...and then another delay...
EW is the leader of this with HWOpus, which should be released shortly after their absolutely gorgeous presentation at Namm,LOL... And MSS follow this....

Their fault is to present us a release date in the first place...
Better work out everything and then go to the public...but to announce a release date?... In most cases, it never worked in the past...

And don´t blame the people in the forums, who are angry then... Its not their fault...cause if a company does everything in marketing with a release date...People believe it...And if all this promise was a lie, people can get upset...and i understand that....
You said MSS follow this. Do you know something we all don’t? Do you have a personal relationship with Andrew and he has told you it’s delayed? Perhaps you’re a family member and have inside information to make once again as you have already time and time again made yourself look like a fool. Do you actually even hear yourself when you type?
 

Kevinside

Active Member
Don´t be rude, but to be honest...end of january won´t happen...If MSS really sees its release in the promised time frame, which was the official announcement: end of january...Then it would be great for me and all the customers, who want that library...So lets count the days?
 

Raphioli

Senior Member
When I came back to the forum and saw the page count suddenly growing,
I thought there was another video out or even maybe even was released. I hate you guys lol

Anyways I can see both sides.

Release Date announced...then delay...then delay...then delay...and then another delay...
IF it is delayed, then I can see where Kevin is coming from.
Someone gave Cyberpunk as an example. Yes, its best for something to be release when its ready.
But at the same time, delaying it over and over doesn't really make them look good. (in terms of planning/management)

You said MSS follow this. Do you know something we all don’t? Do you have a personal relationship with Andrew and he has told you it’s delayed?
But then again, like maestro has said, we don't know anything yet.
Maybe a bunch of videos and demos will suddenly be uploaded during the last week of Jan :D
But I did have a hunch that it might be delayed around mid-Jan (page 39).
I'm hoping I'm wrong of course!


Unexpected things can happen during development, so IF they are going to delay it again, I think its better to announce a delay for several months, just in case something goes wrong again.

But if I'm not mistaken, I think I saw that the delay was only due to paperwork and not wanting to cram the release right before holidays. So that certainly gave me the impression that the library was already done in terms of development. And videos and demos were mostly ready.
Or considering the date of initial announcement, maybe they wanted us to hold on to our BF money, so they ended up announcing it a bit too early? (Who knows?)
 

maestro2be

Senior Member
Don´t be rude, but to be honest...end of january won´t happen...If MSS really sees its release in the promised time frame, which was the official announcement: end of january...Then it would be great for me and all the customers, who want that library...So lets count the days?
I am hoping that end of January does happen. There's still time of course but there's also still time for them to come say it's delayed. It's just that we don't know that for a fact yet until they say it.

I certainly do wonder what video Andrew plans to show next. I mean they could easily do shorts or other things things before legatos. My only guess is that as I said a few pages ago, perhaps they are wanting to highlight the areas that perhaps people might turn their back on or think they don't want/need them and once we see them, it adds to the whole glory of the library. I myself know it, and I am sure they know that most people here will judge on legato. So that video will be the heavyweight contender video and might be the last one we see lol. Right now we're just getting all the exhibition videos leading up to it.

I really do hope they knock the sustains and legatos out of the park and that the Divisi sounds beautiful alone but also when the sections combine it truly sounds like one larger ensemble. If that happens and then on top of that, the solo instruments are a total knockout of the park, this might become the string library to beat.

I know it may not be everybody's thing but I do hope that the new engine gives incredible soundscapes and pads with the new strings with ease as well. That's not really a requirement out of the gate, but at least at some point that would be really nice. I still use that sort of stuff.
 

maestro2be

Senior Member
When I came back to the forum and saw the page count suddenly growing,
I thought there was another video out or even maybe even was released. I hate you guys lol

Anyways I can see both sides.


IF it is delayed, then I can see where Kevin is coming from.
Someone gave Cyberpunk as an example. Yes, its best for something to be release when its ready.
But at the same time, delaying it over and over doesn't really make them look good. (in terms of planning/management)


But then again, like maestro has said, we don't know anything yet.
Maybe a bunch of videos and demos will suddenly be uploaded during the last week of Jan :D
But I did have a hunch that it might be delayed around mid-Jan (page 39).
I'm hoping I'm wrong of course!


Unexpected things can happen during development, so IF they are going to delay it again, I think its better to announce a delay for several months, just in case something goes wrong again.

But if I'm not mistaken, I think I saw that the delay was only due to paperwork and not wanting to cram the release right before holidays. So that certainly gave me the impression that the library was already done in terms of development. And videos and demos were mostly ready.
Or considering the date of initial announcement, maybe they wanted us to hold on to our BF money, so they ended up announcing it a bit too early? (Who knows?)
That's hilarious. I too, constantly watch this thread for growth hoping to see a new uploaded video but unfortunately for now, all you get is us geezers (ok at least I am one) making speculation and nitpicking details of what things might mean and how things might turn out :). I think we all can agree on one thing, we are all "impatiently for the most part" awaiting the release of this library and more videos :).
 
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