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Noc

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I still don't quite understand why that isn't part of the installation process. The whole thing doesn't exactly make sense to me
I think its because Kontakt cant know before you install a library exactly where you are installing so it needs you to specify in the batch resave which speeds up the loading. Key sentence :. Kontakt has the ability to store sample path information for a library specifically for your machine and hard drive configuration
My semi-educated, shot-in-the-dark-so-someone-more-knowledgeable-let-me-know-if-I’m-totally-wrong guess: Since Kontakt can’t know how your system is organized and where in it you install your libraries, it uses relative directory paths by default to find samples, which guarantees compatibility across different systems at the cost of having to cross-check those relative paths with your system to find each file it loads, which slows it down. Batch-resaving hardcodes the actual, absolute file paths into the patches instead, so it can then find the samples directly, massively speeding up loading, though loading will instantly break if you move the library folder afterwards (prompting a new batch resave).
 

PJMorgan

Active Member
MSS is the updated version of Lass with new recordings and a ridiculous amount of features which make it so hotly anticipated. The first demos and user feedback were mixed and threw up a problem with the legatos. This has been pretty much fixed by users under the hood and also hopefully/more than likely by Audio bro with a new v1.1. There is still a debate raging about the actual sound of the library but users are split. The choice for Lass owners is tricky as Lass3 promises to update the features (not the recordings) but some people like the sound a Lass a lot as it has a realism that’s Mss doesn’t yet seem to have but is nevertheless possibly a very useable but different sounding library. Where Lass is a little rough but emotive , Mss is smoother but less immediately real. Hopefully on release of 1.1 new demos will emerge that convince people like me on the fence to jump ship. Quite possibly it is still worth getting even if you dont use the sustain or legato patches which is what I am thinking at the moment. There are plenty of other string libraries that sound better out of the box but none can do as much as this does.

Good library to get??
;)
I dont have it but I think so
Just incase any Lass full owners been waiting on Lass 3 (like myself) & is thinking this is it, it's not. This is a completely new & separate string library to Lass. Lass 3 is supposed to be coming later this year, which is really going to be the current Lass but updated with the UI & keyswitching features of MSS.

As a Lass owner I'm in 2 minds about this one, as I think MSS really is amazing especially at the great crossgrade offer. But Lass is still my main string library & I've been able to get by with it for what i do up until now. I also have SStS & BBCSO Core & definitely intend to upgrade to Lass 3 when it comes out but as much as I want to add MSS to the collection I recently got a new audio interface & I'm not sure i can stretch the budget for it ........ we'll see.....
 

turnerofwheels

bag of mostly water
I still don't quite understand why that isn't part of the installation process. The whole thing doesn't exactly make sense to me
Since it makes your library incompatible with previous versions of kontakt, maybe it shouldn't happen by default, but still be an option during installation... It's pretty odd. It took at least a minute for my machine to load an MSS patch before batch resave and maybe two seconds to load a patch after...
 

turnerofwheels

bag of mostly water
I think its because Kontakt cant know before you install a library exactly where you are installing so it needs you to specify in the batch resave which speeds up the loading. Key sentence :. Kontakt has the ability to store sample path information for a library specifically for your machine and hard drive configuration
That's the user friendly answer, but for a techie, it doesn't answer much. When you set a location for your library say e:\audiobro\etc or what not, that already tells Kontakt where to look on your machine when you load it from the library gui.

I found this link courtesy this useful thread which goes more into detail. It turns out it has less to do with your specific computer, and more as to whether or not your computer and the developer's computer was a Mac or PC (I wonder if this is why my Spitfire libraries open so blazing fast out of the box on my PC without batch resaving): "The problem arises when you take an instrument saved on a Mac and open it on the opposite PC platform (or vice versa). Because the sample references inside the instrument differ slightly from the opposite platform, Kontakt can't utilise on the NKC cache and has to use the long-winded process of searching the drive and files every time you load the NKI."

If I can glean anything from it, it sounds like there is potential risk involved (easily mitigated by backing up your instrument files before saving) so maybe this is why it isn't done automatically.

 
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BasariStudios

Basari Studios
Care to provide an example?? There's virtually no information or examples of the solos AT ALL and that would be a big draw for me..
Actually i stand corrected...i was wrong...i tried the CELLO only which
actually is good but every other Solo Sucks. Violin 1 Worst i think.
Holly hell the CPU Mark on this, a lot worse than u-He Diva.
 

prodigalson

Senior Member
Actually i stand corrected...i was wrong...i tried the CELLO only which
actually is good but every other Solo Sucks. Violin 1 Worst i think.
Holly hell the CPU Mark on this, a lot worse than u-He Diva.
oy. how about the intuition patches? Is the playability/tone any better?
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
That's the user friendly answer, but for a techie, it doesn't answer much. When you set a location for your library say e:\audiobro\etc or what not, that already tells Kontakt where to look on your machine when you load it from the library gui.

I found this link courtesy this useful thread which goes more into detail. It turns out it has less to do with your specific computer, and more as to whether or not your computer and the developer's computer was a Mac or PC (I wonder if this is why my Spitfire libraries open so blazing fast out of the box on my PC without batch resaving): "The problem arises when you take an instrument saved on a Mac and open it on the opposite PC platform (or vice versa). Because the sample references inside the instrument differ slightly from the opposite platform, Kontakt can't utilise on the NKC cache and has to use the long-winded process of searching the drive and files every time you load the NKI."

If I can glean anything from it, it sounds like there is potential risk involved (easily mitigated by backing up your instrument files before saving) so maybe this is why it isn't done automatically.

Ah that might have my answers. Thanks!
 

molemac

Active Member
Actually i stand corrected...i was wrong...i tried the CELLO only which
actually is good but every other Solo Sucks. Violin 1 Worst i think.
Holly hell the CPU Mark on this, a lot worse than u-He Diva.
Happy birthday, are you not liking your wife’s new present ?
 

Wunderhorn

Senior Member
For those who already have MSS - and since it seems to be established that it does not sound very similar to LASS, to what other string libraries would you compare the sound?
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
For those who already have MSS - and since it seems to be established that it does not sound very similar to LASS, to what other string libraries would you compare the sound?
From the demos, to me it kind of sounds like NSS. I seem to be the only one who feels this way lol but that's ok. Some people compare it to Hollywood Strings but i only hear that comparison in the sordino (i only own the expanded legato)
 

BasariStudios

Basari Studios
For those who already have MSS - and since it seems to be established that it does not sound very similar to LASS, to what other string libraries would you compare the sound?
I own a lot of Strings Libraries and tried to Compare.
To me the Closest is coming is BBC SO PRO. Its ROUND,
warm, you do not hear each player separately like in
EW HS or Synchron Strings Pro or even LASS.
I can not explain, it sound more like 1 unified Instrument
then 15-20-30 Players. It is more Soft and Mellow but also
it can get very aggressive. It has huge Dynamic Range.
 

Wunderhorn

Senior Member
... It is more Soft and Mellow but also
it can get very aggressive. It has huge Dynamic Range.
I'd love to hear some more demos that focus on dynamic range. How soft, how aggressive. Not just by mod wheel position but in your writing how aggressive can you get it to sound (think some Shostakovich) and at the same how delicate can it get? Showcasing maybe more of an emotional range than the purely technical pre-requisites that the libraries might fill based just on numbers alone.
 
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