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Evans

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what's the point of doing so many strings library? does it mean that this one is not good enough? (no offense intended)
A real bowed string instrument can offer a wide variety of sounds. Combine that with the difference in sound based on the number of players, recording space, and mic'ing techniques, and it's unreasonable to expect one library to cover the full range of sonic possibilities.

Sometimes, these options are crucial to a project. Sometimes, hearing something new can break you out of the creative doldrums.

Yes, it can get a bit silly. Does anyone really need CSS, Vista, and Con Moto? Probably not.

Unfortunately, an alternate library can also be nice to have around because of goofs in another. Maybe a bad take or sloppy transition can stick out too much if exposed, so you might need to sub something else in. It sucks, but it happens.
 

berto

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well my question was merely why so many strings libraries from the same developer in such a short time. I just got the news of Modern scoring strings and they already announced LASS 3... i wonder what will be so different. Modern scoring strings seems already a big beast!

Well, i am going back to my old Roland s-330 Symphonic Strings CD...
 

Soundbed

Music for TV
what's the point of doing so many strings library? does it mean that this one is not good enough? (no offense intended)
My guesses, based on limited information but simply thinking through the question a bit...:

I think in AudioBro's case (not trying to speak for them) they wanted to have a library that introduced some of the new features like recorded scales, runs, ostinatos, new shorts like martelé and aleatoric effects ... but they could not go back and "re-record" LASS with those additions a decade later.

So making a whole new and consistent library with all the new material made sense.

I presume for LASS 3 (and I don't really know) the updates will at least include GUI and engine changes. Given their experience working directly with Native Instruments on the Symphony Series and now the Modern Scoring Brass and Genesis engines, LASS might even get a new look and feel and even more controls than it had before. But I'd guess AB would be primarily refreshing / re-using the original LASS recordings in 3.x ... maybe (a little) like Spitfire did, when they re-released Albion One.
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
well my question was merely why so many strings libraries from the same developer in such a short time. I just got the news of Modern scoring strings and they already announced LASS 3... i wonder what will be so different. Modern scoring strings seems already a big beast!

Well, i am going back to my old Roland s-330 Symphonic Strings CD...
LASS 3 isn't a new library. It's taking LASS and putting it into their new interface. That's two string libraries, ten years apart. Not very many 😁

It's justified though. They have very different sounds and styles so I'll be reaching for one when i work on some projects, and the other for different sounding projects
 

ALittleNightMusic

18 time Oscar winner
Here’s a walkthrough of some of the other articulations, in a few ranges for most instruments. Also includes the new A.R.T. and goodies like octave runs for all the violins so you can hear the in situ placement in the sound stage.

Should be good for falling asleep to....
Sounds quite good. I have high hopes for the 1.1 update.
 

BasariStudios

Basari Studios
well my question was merely why so many strings libraries from the same developer in such a short time. I just got the news of Modern scoring strings and they already announced LASS 3... i wonder what will be so different. Modern scoring strings seems already a big beast!

Well, i am going back to my old Roland s-330 Symphonic Strings CD...
As other people said, there is not many, its only 1 SINGLE Library
from AudioBro...MSS. Where did you hear about the other???
LASS is as old as my Grandma...it will be a nice make over for it.
 

ansthenia

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well my question was merely why so many strings libraries from the same developer in such a short time. I just got the news of Modern scoring strings and they already announced LASS 3... i wonder what will be so different. Modern scoring strings seems already a big beast!

Well, i am going back to my old Roland s-330 Symphonic Strings CD...
LASS 3 is not a new library.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
Hi,

MSS users, how do you like the timbre of these strings so far ?

Are you spending a lot of time tweaking to get them to sound to your taste ? or are they satisfying your taste, with just a bit of reverb, EQ, and mic level/combination selection ?

Thanks.
 

Evans

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Hi,

MSS users, how do you like the timbre of these strings so far ?

Are you spending a lot of time tweaking to get them to sound to your taste ? or are they satisfying your taste, with just a bit of reverb, EQ, and mic level/combination selection ?

Thanks.
I hope to take some time this upcoming week to put them in a satisfactory space. They sound a bit boxed in (but not nearly as bad as MSB).

I heard a lovely example in another thread in which someone used Afflatus for a mockup from the movie Contact. It had some lovely air to it that I'd like to mimic. I see future use of MSS much like I do Afflatus, with its unique, textural possibilities.

It will also give me a good excuse to get comfortable with Cinematic Rooms, which I picked up last week.

If I achieve any level of satisfaction, I'll post examples. If not, well, I'll come asking for help.
 

Evans

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LASS 3 isn't a new library. It's taking LASS and putting it into their new interface. That's two string libraries, ten years apart. Not very many
Yeah, I'm not going to complain about quality of life improvements, even if I gotta pay for them. Besides, it's like asking why does Spitfire have SSS and SCS and Tundra and Hans Zimmer Strings. They each offer something different that people are obviously willing to pay for.
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
Yeah, I'm not going to complain about quality of life improvements, even if I gotta pay for them. Besides, it's like asking why does Spitfire have SSS and SCS and Tundra and Hans Zimmer Strings. They each offer something different that people are obviously willing to pay for.
Oh I'm not complaining lol! I'm excited for the upgrade myself
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
i am loving this library to bits:dancedance:
That's great. Thanks for the feedback.

Beautiful String Timbre is a crucial part of Strings, and what makes them special, I'm hoping that if I get MSS, I would not have to waste a lot of my time wearing a sound engineer's hat to make them sound to my taste.

A bit Off Topic, but I'm currently tempted to buy Performance Samples Con Moto Strings, mainly for their Wonderful, and expressive timbre, and legatos. Just splash a little bit of reverb on them, and they sound great.

I'm still not sure about the general out of the box sound/timbre of MSS.

But I will stay optimistic, and also wait for 1.1 update.
 

dzilizzi

Senior Member
I hope to take some time this upcoming week to put them in a satisfactory space. They sound a bit boxed in (but not nearly as bad as MSB).

I heard a lovely example in another thread in which someone used Afflatus for a mockup from the movie Contact. It had some lovely air to it that I'd like to mimic. I see future use of MSS much like I do Afflatus, with its unique, textural possibilities.

It will also give me a good excuse to get comfortable with Cinematic Rooms, which I picked up last week.

If I achieve any level of satisfaction, I'll post examples. If not, well, I'll come asking for help.
Part of me that likes all the options that come with MSS hopes you find a way to make it less boxy or whatever that tone is I'm not crazy about. The part of me that thinks it's above my budget Hope's you can't find the sound so I don't feel the need to buy it.

Okay, there's no "need" involved. I need another string library like I need another hole in my head.

Anyway, thanks for trying. Is it weird every time I see the word "contact" now, I think it's misspelled?
 
That's great. Thanks for the feedback.

Beautiful String Timbre is a crucial part of Strings, and what makes them special, I'm hoping that if I get MSS, I would not have to waste a lot of my time wearing a sound engineer's hat to make them sound to my taste.

A bit Off Topic, but I'm currently tempted to buy Performance Samples Con Moto Strings, mainly for their Wonderful, and expressive timbre, and legatos. Just splash a little bit of reverb on them, and they sound great.

I'm still not sure about the general out of the box sound/timbre of MSS.

But I will stay optimistic, and also wait for 1.1 update.
I'm also tempted. It looks like a great deal.
 

Batrawi

Senior Member
MSS users, how do you like the timbre of these strings so far ?
It's really subjective.. but to me, if LASS is the definition of "gritty" then MSS is the definition of "fluffy"... I also find the sound in MSS a bit suffocated (with a pillow maybe because it sounds fluffy :grin:) even with the close mics (my preferred mic position) but found that the default EQ helps it gain more "presence", so I tend to leave it always on from now on, which makes me want to explore the other eq presets more to see what they may offer but still don't have the time for that. In all cases, it still sounds brighter to me than something like CSS and its gentle/non-intrusive vibrato definitely lends itself to a much wider applications...
 

ChristianM

Active Member
My guesses, based on limited information but simply thinking through the question a bit...:

I think in AudioBro's case (not trying to speak for them) they wanted to have a library that introduced some of the new features like recorded scales, runs, ostinatos, new shorts like martelé and aleatoric effects ... but they could not go back and "re-record" LASS with those additions a decade later.

So making a whole new and consistent library with all the new material made sense.

I presume for LASS 3 (and I don't really know) the updates will at least include GUI and engine changes. Given their experience working directly with Native Instruments on the Symphony Series and now the Modern Scoring Brass and Genesis engines, LASS might even get a new look and feel and even more controls than it had before. But I'd guess AB would be primarily refreshing / re-using the original LASS recordings in 3.x ... maybe (a little) like Spitfire did, when they re-released Albion One.
Spitfire reuses a lot the credulity of its customers ;)
 
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