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:2thumbs: You'll really enjoy it!

As for the stereo separation, I realized about halfway through bouncing files that I could probably match CSB better by widening each part, but at that point I was not about to change course! That said, here's a version with the Brass Hall preset with a quick ear-matched widening of each part:


And ultimately, here are screenshots of the placement I used for each part:
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Thank you for sharing it again with the widening. I love it! And for doing it with the Brass Hall preset. I'm flattered. Looking forward to diving in! All the best.
 

Guy Rowland

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The low end options are ridiculous. The Cimbassos have the baddest bite, with the Tenor Trombones close behind. Bass Trombones are just a little less OTT, with a shade more heft. Both the Euphonium and the Tuba are much smoother and incredibly rich. Spoiled for choice.

I am absolutely not needing a Contrabass Trombone as well.
 

Eptesicus

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Hey all! Do you guys notice anything weird in this test? It's just 3 straight notes in a row. I won't say what sounds weird to me as I don't want to bias the test, but if anything jumps out to you on any of these three notes, let me know. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s74bturyohuw06x/AudioBro Brass Test.wav?dl=0
Yes middle (2nd) one has a dodgy artifact of clip.maybe a looping issue?

I would send this to audiobro so they can fix it.

Hope there isn't too much of that sort of thing.
 

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Yes middle (2nd) one has a dodgy artifact of clip.maybe a looping issue?

I would send this to audiobro so they can fix it.

Hope there isn't too much of that sort of thing.
I thought so too! There's something else I hear, but that might not be fixable. I'll send it over to them.
 

David Cuny

Where did all this grey hair come from?
As an aside aside, can you use that Yamaha contraption on any USB MIDI output?
Sorry for the late response, I misread your question and thought perhaps you "Yamaha contraption" you might be referring to a Yamaha WX5. :unsure:

Yes, the UD-BT01 can work for any USB MIDI device. Although it was apparently designed to work with IOS devices, I've got no problems with it talking to the CME Widi Bud in Windows 10.

Yamaha also has a MD/UD-BT01, which is wireless for non-USB MIDI. I don't know much about that, but it looks like it's the same general thing.

The UD-BT01 needs to be powered, which is why hooking it up to a phone recharger as a power source is necessary. I initially picked up a hefty charger, and the power on it lasts forever. But a smaller, less weighty charger seems to last the 2 hours that I need, so I generally use that.

I'd initially been running the CME Widi Bud software at the start of each gig to couple with the UD-BT01, but it doesn't look like that's a necessary step once it's been paired.

That also means you can swap out battery packs if necessary without having to restart everything.
 

5Lives

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As a casual hobbyist, CSB sounds wonderful to me - and seems a lot easier to program / use. I have LASS and never use it just because how challenging it is to get a pleasant sound / setup properly compared to CSS and Spitfire stuff. I’m sure that’s a missed opportunity on my part but time is limited and I’d rather work with tools that are faster to use so I continue to enjoy this beautiful hobby :)
 

Karl Feuerstake

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From the way you worded this, seems you might never have heard a Ctb Bone + Tuba? You can't miss something you don't know! :thumbsup:
Contrabass Trombone is reasonably similar to Cimbasso. They do have different bore and bell sizes and of course every horn company makes their instruments differently, but generally the audience isn't going to know the difference. Heck they won't even know the difference between Contra and plain old Bass.

Of course in a live recording setting all these instruments have different uses and pro orchestrators will know when to call on what. Cimbassi are more agile since they operate on valves than a slide, but typically your Bass Trombonists will not play the Cimbasso, it's a Tuba double. Contrabass Trombones can also play slide legato and are more free-blowing (more efficient) in their very low range just above the pedal tones, while Cimbassi have to put all their valves down and this makes the horns very stuffy.

There are bigger differences between the subtypes of these horns - but there is no common distinguishing terms for their tunings. While in the world of Tubas we would have a CC pitched "Contrabass Tuba" and an Eb pitched "Bass Tuba" - in the Contrabass Trombone world, an F pitched horn is still a "Contrabass Trombone" and so is the one in BBb. However the two instruments have vastly different effective ranges and they do have different timbre too, since the lower horns often have larger bore size and larger bell throat, but again a typical movie-goer would be hard-pressed to know the difference between a Trumpet and a Trombone, let alone all these finer details.

However - just for you :)

 
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Owners of MSB, could you make 2 audio from att. midi files on, for example, 1st Horn Legato instrument? (for calculate MSB velocity layers)
For example, see Berlin Brass Horn Legato results
I'm happy to do this for you. Trying to interpret the Berlin results - what do the diagrams tell you?
 

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Owners of MSB, could you make 2 audio from att. midi files on, for example, 1st Horn Legato instrument? (for calculate MSB velocity layers)
For example, see Berlin Brass Horn Legato results
Here you go. I did the CC1-127 patch on the Legato articulation, and I did the 4 note short midi on the 16th note shorts articulation. Is that what you wanted? All reverb disabled. Mix Mic only. Horn 1. Audio and screenshots here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mkvy3k2cmwx3czt/AACUB_xh5zUoMlu2vcr39YBfa?dl=0
 

Raphioli

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