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borisb2

Active Member
.. 99.67598% of the public can’t tell the difference between a sampled library and a live session. Seems we’re ‘connoisseurs’ of not just realism but taste anymore.
oh, I would like to disagree on that one. I think 80% of the public can hear the difference and tell that something's off - and then maybe 99.67598% of them can't explain WHAT is off .. but they still hear something is not "right"
 

chocobitz825

Senior Member
hearing these samples gives me a better idea of the library's strength and where it could be great to use in various styles.
 

ZeeCount

Member
what about decca center? AWESOME btw, for giving me mics to play with
[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-decca-c-mics-mp3.19560/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-decca-lr-mics-mp3.19562/][/AUDIOPLUS]
 

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Dave Connor

Senior Member
Regarding these mike position demos: it seems people were responding to the reverb solution in the online demos rather than the raw samples (in evaluating the sound.) That’s a big plus I would think and what everyone was hoping for. Or am I missing something?
 

miket

Senior Member
Are these mic demos left centered, or have you positioned them? I'm wondering how the tree and surrounds sound when you pan them (and the whole room with them).
 

mikeh-375

old school
I'd love to hear some famous concert solos, things like rehearsal 135 in Petrouchka for solo trumpet or perhaps some horn parts from R.Strauss, or any concertos, to see how this library handles some of the best written parts in music - that would be a true measure of what's possible and what is not.
 

Go To 11

Member
Here's the same passage with the mics soloed and all internal processing turned off (so you are just hearing the samples in their purest form).

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[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-decca-mics-mp3.19558/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-surround-mics-mp3.19559/][/AUDIOPLUS]
This sounds amazing! Wow, thanks for sharing. I love how dry the space is, but still lovely and warm. I imagine this library is going to do everything I want. Turns out I'm just not a fan of their default reverbs. Cheers!
 

josejherring

Senior Member
[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-decca-c-mics-mp3.19560/][/AUDIOPLUS]

[AUDIOPLUS=https://vi-control.net/community/attachments/ulricht-decca-lr-mics-mp3.19562/][/AUDIOPLUS]
Thanks for this. I mean it definitely doesn't have the sound of the best orchestral players hand chosen from the best orchestras in the world sound but it sounds pretty damn good.
 

novaburst

Senior Member
oh, I would like to disagree on that one. I think 80% of the public can hear the difference and tell that something's off - and then maybe 99.67598% of them can't explain WHAT is off .. but they still hear something is not "right"
I disagree especially when you have real musicians of real instruments confessions that they have been tricked by what they hear,

Even I still get tricked, all you need is a good mix and a mockup created by someone who understands the limitations of the real instrument and how the real instrument works, that with a great mix can trick the ears,

The give away normally is the user is doing things far beyond the instruments capability, the sound to some degree is know longer an issue because a bad mix on a live session can really make the whole thing sound bad,

Many real players of instruments have testimonials that they prefer to use some samples as it's very close to the real deal and convincing,

This whole subject is mixed and not one sided, yes developments like SM are a great contribution but what's more exciting is that sample users are becoming more skillful and spending more time to understand how to deliver a great mockups, and because of that they have stamped their mark in the game industry, the film industry, and have a strong strangle hold on the music market and is welcomed by real users of instruments and both and those who have never touched a real instrument.
 

jononotbono

Luke Johnson
Does anyone know how long the intro price is going on for?

Also, does anyone know if Audio Bro offers an Edu Discount on their products?
 

chocobitz825

Senior Member
I disagree especially when you have real musicians of real instruments confessions that they have been tricked by what they hear,

Even I still get tricked, all you need is a good mix and a mockup created by someone who understands the limitations of the real instrument and how the real instrument works, that with a great mix can trick the ears,

The give away normally is the user is doing things far beyond the instruments capability, the sound to some degree is know longer an issue because a bad mix on a live session can really make the whole thing sound bad,

Many real players of instruments have testimonials that they prefer to use some samples as it's very close to the real deal and convincing,

This whole subject is mixed and not one sided, yes developments like SM are a great contribution but what's more exciting is that sample users are becoming more skillful and spending more time to understand how to deliver a great mockups, and because of that they have stamped their mark in the game industry, the film industry, and have a strong strangle hold on the music market and is welcomed by real users of instruments and both and those who have never touched a real instrument.

The audience likely matters. Real players and music professionals look at the things an instrument can or cant do to give away why it sounds fake. The average person obviously doesn't know this. Professionals can find fault in the techniques. The Average person finds fault in the energy. It doesn't matter if its real or fake, but rather whether or not its able to achieve the same dynamic energy that they expect from the production.

My take on the this library is that it does many things well, but still isn't the kind of library that can do everything, every style, and every arrangement type. That doesn't make it more or less, just different. It could definitely fool people if it's played to its strengths. Push it too far and it becomes obvious that the samples won't fit the context of certain performance types. In good hands (much better than my own, admittedly) it will be a beast.
 
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