Art Conductor for Cubase Opinions ?

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  1. bcarwell

    bcarwell Active Member

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    How is Babylonwaves' Art Conductor for Cubase Expression Maps now ? Is it a good product worth purchasing ? Are there alternatives ? I know Steinberg has several individual product's expression maps available for download but looks like a P.I.T.A. to deal with individually.

    Thanks for any advice/opinions.

    Bob
     
  2. 5Lives

    5Lives Senior Member

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    I have their version for Logic and it is a massive time saver and really well done. Basically plug-n-play. Worth the cost to me.
     
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    bcarwell Active Member

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    Thanks. Gonna purchase especially now with VSL updates. Any sources for more expression maps other than this and Steinburg ?
     
  4. Shubus

    Shubus Active Member

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    I have Art Conductor and it saved a whole lot of time. As I mostly use Orchestral Tools libraries it was good to see most of the libraries having good expression map setups. They include expression maps for both Articulations as well as Direction (Cubase), but I only use the set for Direction. For Orchestral Tools, they are only missing some of the smaller Expansions.
     
  5. Akarin

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    I don't have any experience with it. Once you get to build your Expression Maps the way you want to, the process is really quick and you can set them up the way you want.
     
  6. babylonwaves

    babylonwaves Senior Member

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    to a degree, you're right. setting up an simple EM is easy - in many cases. it just takes time when you do a whole library. what we do is save people time and on top, we also include a couple of extras. for instance, we unify key switches for the most common articulations. or we unify names, so independent of the library things are called more or less the same. and that's the main issue when you look for free maps on the net, you'll find stuff that's setup very differently.
     
  7. Akarin

    Akarin pragsound.com

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    I agree with you on that one. That's why I've built all my maps (over 100 of them) using common names and keyswitches.

    Out of interest, how did you deal with CSS and the short articulations on CC1, legatos on/off, etc?
     
  8. babylonwaves

    babylonwaves Senior Member

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    CC58. as for the legato I haven't found a good solution, if you send 2x CC58 in a row (one for the art, one for the legato state), kontakt will omit on of the two controllers
     
  9. Akarin

    Akarin pragsound.com

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    I see. This is why I usually don't use 3rd parties Expression Maps: they assume a certain workflow. For example, using CCs for switching is not a great solution as Cubase can't retrigger CCs mid-phrase. You'd have to restart your playhead at the beginning of the event for it to be triggered. The only way I found for dealing with this issue (and the legato) is the one I wrote here:

     
  10. babylonwaves

    babylonwaves Senior Member

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    Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too ;)
     

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