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Anybody heard of Musiversal?

Wally Garten

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I know nothing about it -- just saw it on a Youtube ad -- but seems like it's some kind of service where you can connect with session musicians who have home recording setups and do a kind of virtual session. Which is great for Covid, but also seems great for bedroom producers in general.


Anybody foresee any downsides? I want to believe this could work, but I'm also leery of gig-type apps exploiting workers. Thoughts?
 

Polkasound

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I've never heard of it before, but the concept seems very COVID-inspired, I hate to say.

For a music production company continually churning out tracks, paying $99/month for unlimited session musicians would be an answer to a prayer. It would save thousands of dollars versus using a site like SoundBetter.

But unlike SoundBetter where musicians set their own price for each project, musicians get paid a fixed monthly salary. This sounds great for COVID-affected musicians who really need work right now, but what if you end up being one of the 5% of musicians who get stuck with 95% of the work? Whatever monthly salary Musiversal is paying, can adequately compensate for 160 hours?
 
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I've never heard of it before, but the concept seems very COVID-inspired, I hate to say.

For a music production company continually churning out tracks, paying $99/month for unlimited session musicians would be an answer to a prayer. It would save thousands of dollars versus using a site like SoundBetter.

But unlike SoundBetter where musicians set their own price for each project, musicians get paid a fixed monthly salary. This sounds great for COVID-affected musicians who really need work right now, but what if you end up being one of the 5% of musicians who get stuck with 95% of the work? Whatever monthly salary Musiversal is paying, can adequately compensate for 160 hours?

Yeah, the "unlimited" part was what caught my eye, too. I would assume it's not legal to pay people "part time" wages for more than about 20 hours of recording, but in this brave new 1099 world, who knows? I would guess if it sucks bad enough, people would quit -- but it's a hard world out there right now....

And thanks -- will check out SoundBetter.

(Would also welcome people's other recommendations for sites to connect directly with session musicians!)
 

stevenson-again

Senior Member
Ok Interesting.

Has anyone had any experiences with them? Not sure I like the salary idea but I guess that might be due to the pandemic situation.
 

jonathanparham

Senior Member
I get an email from them now and again. it seems experiences are mixed. Also, they've changed ensembles. It used to be 30 on up to 56 musicians and the London strings. Now it's just the 30 piece group. I was just looking at a forum member's YT about them. As @bryla says you can see people's responses and hear results. There's also a VI thread about remote orchestra recommendations.
 

Musicologo

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I've been using them for some months (I am one of the early adopters to try this out), hoping to produce two albums with their musicians. I usually write out my songs in sheet music and then sometimes arrange them using logic virtual instruments, and then replace instrument by instrument, other times I just give instructions on the fly based on how I feel they are playing the sheet music (that's the advantage of real time sessions!). In this case, I've started out by recording the drums, then the bass, guitars, keys, and vocals, all in half hour sessions - the trick is to really plan ahead and be as much detailed as possible. In case of 3-4 minute songs is often possible to get 3-4 full takes in a session which gives you plenty options for doublings and variations (lead and strummed guitar; piano, wurlitzer and hammond, etc...) I've mixed myself, and then used their mastering session (which is included in the plan). This is the final track, you can judge by yourselves, I hope you like it!
 

Phryq

AlbertMcKay.com
I just tried them. Recordings had incorrect rhythms, wrong notes, out of tune. Here's a recording with their bass and sax. I've fixed it 90%, but still haven't gotten to the bass tuning.


 
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