Ample sound riffer or musiclab patterns library?

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  1. Rey

    Rey Senior Member

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    Hi. I am looking for a guitar vst that have patterns built in. I have tried only musiclabs guitars and ample sounds guitars. If there are others that have lots of patterns included kindly please recommend to me. I am not a guitarist. I can only play solo guitar on midi keyboard when it comes to strumming styles and patterns I think I still need to rely on supplied patterns rather than playing on my own because they utterly sound different.

    I tried the musiclabs guitar and I can seem to play live using the supplied patterns. I change chords and the sound changes to other chords on my midi keyboard.

    Is it not supposed to be the same with riffer in Ample sound guitars? I tried but cant seem to play live. Can you play live with riffer patterns on the midi keyboard or is it just drag and drop into your host?

    I love the riffer patterns there are a lot of them I wonder it can be played live or are those just midi patterns. I cant really understand its purpose.

    please shed some light on this matter. THanks in advance!
     
  2. Zee

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    For Ample Sound libraries there are two modes The Riffer which plays a sequence of predetermined chords, with their voicings and duration already baked in the pattern (which you can freely edit) to trigger the pattern use A#6, high velocity to start it and low velocity to stop it.
    The second mode is the Strummer which lets select twelve chords and you can trigger any of them by just one key (Keys C1-B1) and then you can either choose to play your strums with one key trigger for each type of strum with velocity sensitivity downstroke, upstroke with mute and open variations (white keys (C4-B4) or trigger one of the 8 pattern slots (keys C3-D#4)
     
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    @Zee thanks for the reply. so there is no way to trigger the riffer patterns? are the riffer patterns and strum patterns different from each other?
     
  4. Zee

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    This is for patterns on the riffer and yes it's different from the strummer they don't share also forgot to mention that you can change to the next riff pattern using A6
     
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    can I change the riffer chord by pressing pressing different chords on my midi keyboar? or maybe change the riffer to different chords like we do it while strumming? press c5-c6 I think change to different chord for strumming. can it be done for riffer too? I want to play live if possibile
     
  6. Zee

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    I think you're better off using the Strummer if you wanna control the chord
     
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    ok thank you! I wish I can import the riffer patterns into strummer somehow. thanks though for the awesome explanation @Zee
     
  8. dzilizzi

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    UJam Virtual Guitarist is pretty good for doing rhythm guitar. Set the key and you pretty much play the chords with one finger and change the strumming style with another. Turn on the latch to make it smooth, add guitar rig or something similar, and you are set. Usually on sale during the BF time frame. They have one acoustic and 3 electric guitars. I'm not sure if they do chords like a major 7th though. I've used this for whole songs, changing the strumming pattern every bar or so makes it sound natural. They have a bunch of patterns that are just slightly different, so going from one to the other works well.

    There is also AAS's Strum GS-2. I haven't gotten it to work smoothly, but it does have a choice of keyboard (just playing notes) and chords (playing strum patterns with one or 2 notes) I think there is one other choice. Sounds good if you get it to work.

    Then there is OrangeTree guitars. You can use set patterns or make your own. It is much more complicated but you can get a good sound from them. They have a lot of choices in guitars. They best time to buy though is in the summer when they have the group buy. You can get up to 60% off if enough people sign up.
     
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  9. Heizenhaus

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    The Ilya Efimov guitars have strumming functions as well. Take a look.
     
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    As far as a full featured guitar vst goes I think you have the best ones capable of pattern strums with exception of maybe acoustic samples guitars. I wouldn't spend more money on those type of libraries for strumming and look at more specialized phrased based libs such as:

    All of NIs session guitarist series
    Impact Soundworks Acoustic Revolutions 3
    UJam guitars as mentioned earlier
    And Zero G Inspiring Guitars which might still be on sale. Not as good as flexible as the above mentioned but also different and useful in other ways that the others don't do.
     
  12. scoble08

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    Indiginus Renegade Acoustic has nice strumming patterns and, i think, very easy input for creating your own.
     
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  13. pderbidge

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    I don't own Renegade but I agree that the demos sound promising. I forgot about that one but definitely one I plan to pick up one day. Nevertheless, Amplesound, MusicLab, OTS, Ilya Efimov, Indiginus etc...- none of these are going to be as real sounding as a phrase based lib like the ones I mentioned. The drawback is that the phrase based libraries are limited by the phrases it gives you and not much beyond that although Session Guitarist libraries allow quite a bit of manipulation to their phrases, but still a trade off. However, if the OP is only using the patterns given and not creating his own from scratch then that's kind of the same thing and it would be better, IMO, to have one of the phrase based libraries that give a much more authentic sound. I've used Ample sound for strumming with good success but I also did a lot of post processing on it to make it sound more realistic and I also did not use the riffer either, I just put it in strum mode and played/programmed in my own strum patter. I didn't even use the pattern builder, just the two finger strum method. I only did that because I had a specific strum pattern with enough variation that I couldn't find in Strummed Acoustics which would have been my first choice for that task.
     
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