Alan Silvestri and Dorico/Cubase

miket

Egregiously untalented fanboy
This is great! Those blank sketch pages with all the tempo/meter information, sync points, etc., already marked out, seems like a really enjoyable way to write.
 

Saxer

Senior Member
Why can't the others import tempo information? This is such a great feature.
You can import tempo maps with midi files. It's part of the midi protocol. Should work with all apps that allow midi import. I didn't try with Sibelius of Finale but I don't know why it shouldn't work.

I don't use Cubase but it works too with Logic and Dorico.
I often have to write on top of audio tracks (additional strings for songs or orchestra for a live performance or transcribing parts etc). I import the original audio track in Logic and make a tempo map so the click in Logic follows the original. Dorico doesn't allow audio tracks but movie import (with audio). So I created some dummy videos (just a few minutes of black picture with low res that have a few MB) and export the audio in Logic into the video. And I export the tempo track as a midi file from Logic too.

Now I can import the movie with the original audio and the tempo track via midi file into Dorico and can write along the audio file in perfect sync.

If I already recorded some midi in Logic I can export MusicXML from Logic to Dorico. Key signature, double bar lines, meters, notes... everything works except chord symbols and text.

btw: great video about Silvestri!
 
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marclawsonmusic

Senior Member

Here is part 2 by the way. I think the original post had 2 links to the first video.

What I find compelling about this is how he talks about workflow and how the software really helps / enhances it. The example about keying in a rhythmic part quickly without thinking about each note's duration and also how easy it is to move sections around makes a strong case.
 
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dexterjettser

dexterjettser

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Here is part 2 by the way. I think the original post had 2 links to the first video.

What I find compelling about this is how he talks about workflow and how the software really helps / enhances it. The example about keying in a rhythmic part quickly without thinking about each note's duration and also how easy it is to move sections around makes a strong case.
Whoops! My bad. I agree the ability to move sections around on the fly is a big deal. I’ve seen junkie xl talk about this as well. Steinberg really knows their market
 

marclawsonmusic

Senior Member
Why can't the others import tempo information? This is such a great feature.
Surely it's possible, right? I have never tried in Sibelius. Thomas, I seem to remember you use Finale? (but maybe I am wrong)... so it's not possible in Finale?
 

bryla

Senior Member
Surely it's possible, right? I have never tried in Sibelius. Thomas, I seem to remember you use Finale? (but maybe I am wrong)... so it's not possible in Finale?
I use all three but mainly Sibelius. If I have made a score in Sibelius I can't import a midi file with tempo information. I have to use the midi-file as a starting point, meaning all my libraries and settings from my template are not available. Dorico has really nailed it.
 

joebaggan

Member
I like how he compares the Dorico/Cubase workflow to using a word processor. One thing I like about Dorico is the easy ability to move things around, whether it be notes, bars, sections or whatever. I want notation software to be as fluid/easy in that way as a word processor, and assigning these functions to custom key commands like you can do in Dorico makes editing a lot faster for me. By the way, there's a great command in Dorico, Shift B, to add/remove rests/notes/bars etc, probably my favorite and most used command in Dorico.
 

peter5992

Member
Why can't the others import tempo information? This is such a great feature.
You can, every DAW and notation program can import midi (and xml for notation programs), but for Sibelius there are extra steps:

1. Import the midi into a new project
2. Import house style
3. Add instruments
4. Copy and paste notes and dynamics / expression text from previous cue to new cue

So essentially you are creating a new Sibelius file from scratch, whereas this can be done in one step in Dorico. That's a time saver.
 

bryla

Senior Member
You can, every DAW and notation program can import midi (and xml for notation programs), but for Sibelius there are extra steps:

1. Import the midi into a new project
2. Import house style
3. Add instruments
4. Copy and paste notes and dynamics / expression text from previous cue to new cue

So essentially you are creating a new Sibelius file from scratch, whereas this can be done in one step in Dorico. That's a time saver.
And my point is that House Style is not nearly enough to get me up to speed. My template includes much more than that.