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Aeon and Signal

Noizmak3r

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anyone here own both Heavyocity Aeon and Output Signal? They both seem to market themselves as rhythmic / pulse oriented libraries, and I was wondering whether those who own both find them either complimentary or redundant.
 

gamma-ut

Senior Member
Broadly speaking, Aeon is more naturalistic; Signal synthetic. Also Aeon Melodic has regular instruments made from stacked samples whereas Signal is all pulses.
 

richardt4520

Active Member
I think there was a post with someone asking about it about a week ago? Might want to check that one for more info. I have both and I don't see much crossover. Signal is very flexible and AEON Rhythmic is mostly chopped up loops. Both sound fantastic
 

Guitarman76

New Member
For pulses and more I bought Wide Blue Sound Eclipse and love it to bits!
Great GUI really easy to tweak the sounds to how you want them.
Since I got Eclipse I rarely use Signal
 
Aeon is complex chopped up loops and sounds heavy ideal for aggressive filmic styles.
Signal works a little more like an arp (kind of) and is cleaner and more varied in use from film to pop
Eclipse is filmic/game but more atmospheric and often lighter than Aeon
 

Guitarman76

New Member
I would agree that Aeon is more aggressive than either Signal or Eclipse, although the new Eclipse expansion has some great more aggressive sounds.
Aeon is more sample based, whereas Eclipse seems more like a synth.
 

k4music

Member
I have and like both of them. The pulses in Signal are customizable. we can adjust the gate/pulse to different time signatures. Also one patch has two sound sources so that you can adjust the volume levels and you can also change the two sound sources of one patch with different inbuilt samples. So many ways to make the sound/pulse unique. Im finding it more useful.
 

shawnsingh

Senior Member
I also have all these, Aeon Rhythmic, Signal/Substance, and Orbit/Eclipse. All of them are great quality sounds in my opinion.

Aeon - punchy and aggressive. The sound design is what makes this library really special - their loops are more varied and rich. I feel like they used a lot more sequencing on the parameters of more creative sound design tools, going way beyond some of the more standard pulse creation techniques. Many of the loops inspire me to make entire songs built around one of their loop as a starting point. The workflow for tweaking their loops lies primarily around sequencing the FX and splicing. It's kind of a "tweak for creative purposes" approach to creating new loops from the existing material. But I sheepishly admit, so far I've been so happy with using Aeon loops as-is, I hadn't even felt the need to explore their tweaking features, I just have used their 5 main menus so far.

Signal/Substance - the pulses are more traditional arp-like, but IMO high quality and very useful. These libraries are especially great when you already know the kind of sound you want, and you just want to quickly find it - because the sounds are all organized by tags with a search interface directly in the Kontakt UI. The tweaking workflow is different than Heavyocity's approach. It's more about "tweak the FX to adjust the tone" approach. Signal and Substance may have different workflow features, can't remember right now.

Orbit/Eclipse - the selling point of these libraries is their unique perspective of how pulses are constructed. This makes it easy to dig slightly deeper into designing your own pulses. This is also a "tweak for creative purposes" approach, but more of a simplified tool to do some basic hands-on pulse creation. So in that way it's more flexible. On the other hand, having only 4 elements to tweak can possibly be constricting if you wanted to design more complicated pulses. But while using it, I never really felt so unhappy about this constraint. still a pleasure to use.

Also worth mentioning two other useful ways to make pulses beyond just sample libraries:
- sequencing FX like Tantra. This is another way to create pulses from any other source material, whether it's pulse-like or not. This allows to create more evolving sounds (if the underlying sound also evolves), or to have more control over the pulse creation process when you know more specifically the kind of FX you want, and want control over the exact sequencing envelopes.
- using a vocoder to combine percussive and timbral sounds. I haven't done this much myself, because I don't have any vocoder plugin (is there a stock vocoder in Cubase? I'm not aware of it)
 

ScoreFace

Active Member
I have Aeon and I really like the sounds! They have lots of good bass sounds that are blending perfectly in the mix without being too dominant or disturbing.
 

Lee Blaske

Senior Member
Signal is okay, but there's really not as much there as you might initially think. It's a limited set of things, and yes, they're tweakable, but you'll still be in the same ballpark with them. I've gone to Signal numerous times, looking for something to fit a certain situation, and have come up empty handed. I think the person above who suggested building things yourself has the right idea.
 
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