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Aaron Venture Infinite Brass - Update v1.2 is live!

MichaelB

New Member
What a beast! Feels like I’ll be able to blow the ceiling away with this giant. Congratulations, the sound is good and I see a lot of good potential in this power kingdom of brass. You lift the bar once again and give us the power to do a special Aida like never heard before.

I just have one concern, is this library aimed at a special market? Concerning the size, will this be suitable for usual orchestral music and do we have the option to reduce the section sizes or is this the power monster to blast movie audiences out of their seats? I would just like to have your honest opinion because when I listen to the Swan Lake demo it gives me the impression that perhaps this brass section is a bit too powerful to fit in with a normal size orchestra and can easily be too overpowering. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, if it’s intended to be the mother of all brass libraries then it is in fact the mother of all brass libraries and it kicks dust in any competitor’s eyes. And when you mention filling up positions for 30 horns, 20 trumpets etc I have to say I’m impressed with the sound and I can just imagine what a spectacular Aida you can do with this library.
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
What a beast! Feels like I’ll be able to blow the ceiling away with this giant. Congratulations, the sound is good and I see a lot of good potential in this power kingdom of brass. You lift the bar once again and give us the power to do a special Aida like never heard before.

I just have one concern, is this library aimed at a special market? Concerning the size, will this be suitable for usual orchestral music and do we have the option to reduce the section sizes or is this the power monster to blast movie audiences out of their seats? I would just like to have your honest opinion because when I listen to the Swan Lake demo it gives me the impression that perhaps this brass section is a bit too powerful to fit in with a normal size orchestra and can easily be too overpowering. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, if it’s intended to be the mother of all brass libraries then it is in fact the mother of all brass libraries and it kicks dust in any competitor’s eyes. And when you mention filling up positions for 30 horns, 20 trumpets etc I have to say I’m impressed with the sound and I can just imagine what a spectacular Aida you can do with this library.
No, not at all. You can build your custom ensemble sections. So in that Swanlake demo I used a bigger ensemble, but you care not tied to that. You can also create all kinds of custom ensemble combinations. There is no limit regarding that, so you can go from any single instrument to a phalanx.

All combinations are possible from:

1 trumpet
2 Horns
1 Tenor Bone
1 Bass bone
1 Tuba
1 CB Tuba

or

2 trumpets
4 Horns
2 Tenor bones
1 Bass Bone
1 CB Bone
1 Tuba
1 CB Tuba

3 Trumpets
4 Horns
3 Tenor Bones
2 Bass Bones
2 CB Bones
1 Tuba
1 CB Tuba

or for big orchestra:

4 Trumpets
6 Horns
3 Tenor Bones
3 Bass Bones
3 CB Bones
1 Tuba
1 CB Tuba

How you mix and how many instrument and where you position them is totally up to your own taste and needs. You can create countless specific combinations, also like:

3 trumpets
2 Horns
1 Bassbone
2 CB Bones
1 CB Tuba

I hope that this does answer your question a bit?
 
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bryla

Senior Member
Congratulations, Aaron!
I'm not sure what you mean by filling up the positions. I hope you can make a video demonstration of that.
Is it correct that horns are the only instrument not available as solo?
 

Hanu_H

Senior Member
Like the concept a lot, not sure yet if I like the sound though. Sometimes it sounds a bit muffled in the demos, especially the horns. Waiting for the walkthrough to see the instruments in action. Maybe some naked demos would be good too? This is a next generation library and would be great if people could try it for themselfs to really see what it can do.

-Hannes
 

MichaelB

New Member
Hi Alexander

Thank you for your prompt response and clear answer to my question. Now you have me even more excited about this library. You really raise the bar on this one!
 
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aaronventure

aaronventure

Senior Member
I'm not sure what you mean by filling up the positions.
There are 23 positions for Horns. 6 Left, 6 Center, 6 Right, 2 Offstage Left, 2 Offstage Right, Soloist.

If you use the transpose options, you can safely load in multiple patches of horns 1-6 and place them in unused positions. With the instruments being mostly non-linear, the actual transposing helps alleviate the small phasing issues that might come when copy-pasting MIDI (because who's gonna play in all 30 horns one by one? I know I would get lazy :grin:), so better safe than sorry.

But once you fill them up, you can do whatever you want. Aleatorics? Call-and-response trill bursts from all over the place? It's all as easy as just playing it in. Imagine having up to 30 (or 23 per room, rather) players in front of you, spaced out however you want and being able to tell each one what to do.

Is it correct that horns are the only instrument not available as solo?
I'm not sure what made you think that. If you could point it out, I can make the post more clear.

Infinite Brass is a collection of solo instruments - there are no ensemble patches. You create your own ensembles by loading in whatever the amount of instruments you wish, positioning the across the room as you with with a click of a mouse, then just playing the lines in. While playing in an entire unison surely sounds fine most of the time, you get the best results when you either play in each line on its own or edit the MIDI if you're punching in a unison/copy pasting to at least change the velocities, note timings and re-record/edit CC1.
 
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trumpoz

Senior Member
There are some beautiful aspects to the library. Some of the crescendos sound really good - particularly in 'Starchild'. The ensemble sound in the Holst when the brass are going balls-to-the-wall is very full - it timbre opens up and sizzles nicely there.

In the Tchaik and Holst demos - the brass sometimes sounds like it is being played through a felt hat. They do not have the resonance that I would expect from an orchestral library. I'm not a fan of the mutes in the Holst.

All the best - I'm on the fence with this one. I'd love to see some solo demos
 

AlexanderSchiborr

Senior Member
Is this a Kontakt player or Kontakt Full library?
It is for the Kontakt Player Full Version, compatible with 5.7.3.

Woah. How did I miss this?

Is this going to be one of those that is lighter on RAM, heavier on processor?
It is very light on ram, you can load the whole brass and it uses..only 1.5 Gig or something. It is also so far from my experience using it no CPU Hog at all. I never had any problems or spikes in Kontakt so far. Very friendly in both aspects.
 
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I like music

Senior Member
It is for the Kontakt Player Full Version, compatible with 5.7.3.



It is very light on ram, you can load the whole brass and it uses..only 1.5 Gig or something. It is also so far from my experience using it no CPU Hog at all. I never had any problems or spikes in Kontakt so far.
My pain with samples (esp with brass) is always with not being able to go between short staccato passages to lyrical phrases. I'm so hoping this will solve it. Had my heart set on CSB but now this is right in the running.
 
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