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8dio English Horn (on sale) - your thoughts?

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Grumpy Monkey

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Yes but isn't that honkiness better to have in the first place as it's easily filtered out? In other words I bet the BWW can be made to sound like the 8Dio but not the other way round!
 

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Grumpy Monkey
Yes but isn't that honkiness better to have in the first place as it's easily filtered out? In other words I bet the BWW can be made to sound like the 8Dio but not the other way round!
I did try this, putting them side-by-side and EQ-ing BWW Legacy. What I found is that there's more detail with Claire, but less range when doing this. BWW might be more accurate and offer more options, Claire might just sound better but do a limited set of things. Keep in mind that the english horn was probably the weakest instrument in BWW Legacy, and the one that benefited the most from the rerecording in Revive.

All of this was playing with the instruments solo, not in full woodwind context. Most of Claire is one dynamic layer, though the x-fade articulation is two.

I have to admit that I haven't developed an ear for english horn the way I have for the more commonly used instruments, so my idea of what the correct sound is, and what is desirable, is still taking shape.
 

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Grumpy Monkey
Ah if I had it I would..any chance of an example?
Sure. Here's a phrase, first with Claire-decca tree, leg strong patch, soft art. Second BWW-room mic.

I added EAReverb to each, no other processing.

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Mark Schmieder

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I grabbed it in order to make a better evaluation of whether the Claire libs play well together and with other libs, as I similarly bought the Alto Flute and Clarinet on fire sale. I looked at my annotation file and found that I have VERY few English Horn sound sources, so figured, why not.

As I am working crazy hours at my day job of late, I haven't had much time for recording, but hopefully soon. This one is near the top of my list to give a fair shake, as I have some tracks where I wasn't convinced VSL would be the keeper for the english horn role.

Being that I am not a fan of legato playing styles in general (my tastes run more to other eras of music that are more focused on complex articulations and lots of "air" between notes and instruments), it does not surprise me that the legato patch might sound honky when given the full room treatment. I made it dry when I tried it, and played with several articulations but not a lot of complex switching so I don't yet know how flexible and realistic it is for solo phrasing.

The raw recordings sounded good to me though; better than most (just as with the rest of the Claire series). I live in the SF area though, and feel we have the best woodwind players in the USA. Never cared for the Philly sound, and wasn't terribly fond of NYP either, woodwind-wise. I'm from Boston though, and as far as US orchestras go when talking about woodwinds, prefer the warm dark sounds of Boston, Cleveland, San Francisco, Denver, Los Angeles, and sometimes Chicago. Nothing bugs me more than bright woodwinds. Honky comes next. I'll see if I encounter the latter trait with Claire.
 
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