2018 Mac Mini

Discussion in 'PC/Mac Builders, Mods, Peripherals - New' started by Will Wilson, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Nick Batzdorf

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    The best benchmark is to try running a session that your previous machine gagged on.
     
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  2. galactic orange

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    Well, I can run the same test on my 2012 Mini, but it would only be out of curiosity since most people nowadays want something newer and more powerful.
     
  3. tav.one

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    Sorry, I actually posted it several times in the thread before so didn't include it in the post, its the 6 core i7 Mac Mini (16GB RAM if you wanna know)

    The fans became very loud very fast. It could even run 85 tracks but for about a minute, 83 was the number where it wasn't overloading even after 5 minutes.
     
  4. keyman_sam

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    Well it is a bit surprising that the cMP beats it. But st the least it can hang with the MBP so that’s a relief. Been worried reading reports of it stuttering with stereo channel playback.

    Can you list what display you use (hdmi/tb/resolution). What other peripherals are connected?
     
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  5. tav.one

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    I’m currently using just a 49 inch 4K TV through HDMI, will buy 38 ultrawide soon. Other than that I have a hub, an SSD, HDD and regular gear connected.
     
  6. simsung

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    this is how i solved my monitor situation
    behind the lower monitor is a blackmagic egpu and in the recording room is one more monitor
     

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  7. keyman_sam

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    Are you seeing any difference between external SSD vs internal SSD? How many audio tracks can you stream off the external disk?
     
  8. simsung

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    just checked and i stopped at 400 audio tracks with this result ... so i guess it can take a lot more tracks.
    about your question regarding the loading time:i can not see any difference between internal and external SSD at loading samples. optimizing the plugins so that samples are loaded almost instantly is also possible with external SSD´s. This only makes sense since no SSD is faster than the Thunderbolt connection - so the connection is not the bottle neck - its the SSD itself and of course the software.
     

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  9. keyman_sam

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    Thanks! Are these 400 audio files or 1 file in 400 tracks?
     
  10. Nick Batzdorf

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    Isn't 400 tracks God's way of telling you to get rid of 90% of your parts?
     
  11. ironbut

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    400 tracks in post production audio is a good start.
    Seriously though, a huge number of audio tracks in post is par for the course and it's my guess that there are more folks working in post these days than media composition (at least that's where most pro audio jobs are offered).
    If we're discussing if the new mini can handle pro audio, post production is a big part of what pro audio is today.
     
  12. Nick Batzdorf

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    These kids today.

    I remember when we used to have rooms full of dubbers.
     
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  13. Silence-is-Golden

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    What I am realy interested in is if someone on the forum uses a mini that has maxed out, or closer to full specced mac mini, and whether or not using it in a 64ram template setting will make the cooling turn up or not.

    I am not in a housing place where I could create a seperate place for ‘server’ or mac.

    So simple q is: when using a fuller specced mac mini to its full potential does the cooling turn on regularly or does it only get warm/hot like an iMac does? ( in a regular surrounding condition like lets say the dutch wheather ;)

    PS: several of the online reviews are more tailered towards video editing and its performance. None are directed to the niche of musical (sample libs)applications with lots of Ram use
     
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  14. simsung

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    Its the i7 3,2 ghz but 32gb ram - since i build it in myself and 64gb is not available yet afaik.
    i recognized the fan starting to make noise everytime i bounce a track. during recording or composing i cant remember hearing the fan. hope that helps.
    Actually i dont care if its getting warm or not ... didnt check that. In case its overhearting and something gets damaged that will be a product error so in that case apple would need to fix it
    under the line - compared to the nmp 6core - the mini is better in performance, but a bit louder as i wrote above.
    For that cost of around 2000€ that computer is perfect - i dont need the biggest video card for video editing - so i wonder how much the new mac pro 2019 is gonna cost because it will have lots of things for video guys in it , for which we will have to pay but not use .... so i assume money/performance wise the mini will be the better choice
     
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  15. Chris Hurst

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    I managed to get it up to playing 92 tracks and Logic stopping playback on 93 (with an error message), using the same settings. The fans ramped up, but I wouldn't have said it was much noisier than other machines, in my experience. If I was tracking at that sort of strain though, you would need to be in a different room, as it was loud enough to be caught by microphones.

    Mine's a 32GB version, 512GB SSD and extra storage hooked up by TB3.

    Great machine so far!
     
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  16. samphony

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    Was VEP involved?
     
  17. Chris Hurst

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  18. keyman_sam

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    When you said crashing at 93, did logic crash? How come?
     
  19. jtnyc

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    I'd be interested in how it performs with heavy VI, ram usage as well. Track count is important of coarse, but how it handles multiple instances of Kontakt, Omni, Play etc is key.
     
  20. Chris Hurst

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    Sorry, crash is the wrong choice of word - logic gave an error and stopped playback.

    I’ve edited the original post to clarify that.
     
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