12 Years Old. Twelve. There is hope for humanity.

Discussion in 'Composition, Orchestration & Technique' started by robgb, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. LamaRose

    LamaRose Gato Mighty!

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    I think she's a 500-year old, time-traveling alien from the 16th century. She'll probably end up being an Academy Award winning writer/actress/director... after her modeling career is over, of course!

    Whatever... the girl's got game... that's for damn sure.
     
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  2. Kony

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  3. Jimmy Hellfire

    Jimmy Hellfire Senior Member

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    Yeah Kony, as I said, you're obviously getting worked up over it and are taking it real personal. I already pointed that out, no need to demonstrate again. The question is why, and more importantly: why don't you get yourself straight, no need to get in my face about it. You need to ask yourself why you feel you need to do that.
     
  4. Paul Grymaud

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    What's the matter ? Yeah ! I can play "Jingle bells" with only one paw.
    Would You be jealous too ? If so, go to Hellfire.

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    Joking aside, I have the feeling that Miss Deutscher is an accomplished classical musician (unusual for this age...). Her face is sparkling and she's full of vivacity. Unfortunately, for those who cannot understand that, her brain works differently from the average. In my opinion, virtuosity AND musicality are already present. Is she happy with her life and does she make some people happy ? So, why not ? Now, I don't think she composes and plays as if it was slavery.

    I can understand that it seems unfair having so much facility to compose and play in comparizon with those who have to work hard to learn to play an instrument or to compose even a little melody. But, it's not HER fault. Maybe she gives the impression that it's easy as pie. In fact, it is so ! I myself, have the same problem. When someone ask me: so, You are musician ? What instrument do You play ? When I answer: piano, guitars, violin, bluegrass banjo, percussions, bass and a few others, they don't understand ! And when I say I practise lyrical singing and compose, they consider me as an alien too ! You know what ? I started the violin (a little one) at the age of four, playing 5 hours per day, then the bluegrass banjo 8 to 10 hours a day ! And so on... Thanks to my mother and my teachers who gave me very early a huge musical education.. And, I'm very happy in my life ! So, let this little bird flutter in this deep blue sky. Who knows ? When she's 25 she maybe doing trash metal !
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  5. Jimmy Hellfire

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    Aah, you commited the cardinal sin. It's Thrash Metal. Admittedly, a lot of Thrash Metal is also Trash Metal.

    But just to make it clear, I don't care one bit if she's a "prodigy" or not. In fact, I don't even know. I have no idea what she does musically.

    It's a totally uninteresting category, I don't care if someone's a "genius" in making music. I don't attach sportsmanship spirit to music, to me it's about entirely different things. I think it's quite a sign of buffoonism to chalk up any skeptical comment up to "jealousy". I was 100% referring to the whole otherworldly snobbism and exalted in vitro ridiculousness that's always part of this stuff. Apparently, it's a big issue for some people to have a bit of fun with that. Which in turn makes it more funny. Ah well.
     
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  6. Kony

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  7. zolhof

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    I'm all up for good, clean, lighthearted fun but there's a big difference between joking and insulting a gifted 12yo girl for the sake of it. "People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer."

    Since you are so dismissive of Miss Deutscher's accomplishments, here's another young talent more up your alley:

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  8. Jimmy Hellfire

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    So you're insulting this fine midwestern young lady now? Actually I'd bet a 100 bucks that you woulnd't be crapping your jocks if I was making fun of her in the first place. Hypocrisy much?
     
  9. zolhof

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    Different strokes for different folks. I don't need to insult a kid to make a point, she is what she is and I honestly believe you would feel more in peace with yourself by following her instead. That's all, please stop projecting. I don't know you but the way you speak to others here you come across as rude and obnoxious. We got your point already, maybe it's time to move on?
     
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  10. Jimmy Hellfire

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    I'd take honest spite over smug and hypocritical virtue signalling any day. I never "insulted a kid". You trying to frame it that way is what's rude. Quite a cheap one mate.
     
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    marvellous girl -- reminds me of Clara Schumann
     
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  12. Kony

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    This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Either you lack self-awareness or have no memory - which is it?
     
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    robgb I Have Strong Opinions

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    Clearly you haven't watched her on 60 minutes. It's quite obvious that she LOVES what she's doing and is not pressured by her parents at all. Funny that you make that assumption. Hell, you can see how much she loves what she's doing simply by looking at her face while the orchestra plays. Not really sure why you have to be such a downer about the girl. She's a musical genius and a happy one at that.

    Yeah, she just looks miserable.... Give me a fucking break.
     
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  14. creativeforge

    creativeforge Barefoot Heart Music

    Gosh that was heartless. I don't usually express my opinions this way, but wow. What a crusher of dreams and insensitive entitled snub you come out to be in this post to spew such nonsense.
     
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  15. Kony

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    @Jimmy Hellfire
    It's funny you should bring cultural identity into this and using "midwestern" as somehow relevant to your counter-argument.
     
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    Her harmonic language seems totally undeveloped apart from repeating some very obvious influences (Mendelssohn and Dvořák for sure, among others).

    On the other hand... even mastering one instrument at that age, let alone two, is impressive. It takes dedication and not just pushy parents.

    I have a feeling that the media & general public is more impressed with her compositions than they should be and less impressed with her musicianship than they should be.

    In time, her musicianship & music literacy will certainly help her become a great composer if she follows that path.

     
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  17. Gerbil

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    Conservative, even by 19th century standards, no doubts. Undeveloped, not so much as it fits with the themes and remains stylistically coherent. Her harmonic vocabulary will broaden with age. For a 12 year old writing music of that length with such confidence is very impressive.
     
  18. Kony

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    I wouldn't say Jimmy has won anything here - although I agree with you about the drama zone. But only the negative comments should be moved there IMO
     
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  19. creativeforge

    creativeforge Barefoot Heart Music

    I vote to purge this thread from the vomit spewed on it, because it deserves to exist without the foulness.
     
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  20. Jimmy Hellfire

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    Well thank you. You guys are a bunch of babies, I gotta say.
     

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