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    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

    Those of you that get it.:sneaky: If you don't, it's okay. Too much drama and strife here for me. bye, Steve
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    January 6: new Spitfire Originals release Cinematic Frozen Strings - “Tundra First Chairs” (thanks @ism)

    My comments were not directed at any one in particular. If it upset you, I'm sorry. But, I'm tired of all the bitching about prices of libraries. Developers are giving us libraries at not even a fraction of their investment in the hopes of actually making money after getting their money back...
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    January 6: new Spitfire Originals release Cinematic Frozen Strings - “Tundra First Chairs” (thanks @ism)

    Cool piece of music Lee. 10 $29 libraries equals 1 $290 library. Make your choice. If one $29 library is a big expense, maybe skip Starbucks or McDonalds to get the library you want. Sorry, but complaining about the price really is ridiculous. We are drowning in affordable solutions to musical...
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    Cleanest Reverb

    I skipped from page one to page four. I think the libraries that you use will determine the best reverb. So, the bigger issue is using libraries that have a similar room or sonic footprint. If you are using different "bands", you may have to use different reverbs to create a cohesive whole. I...
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    January 6: new Spitfire Originals release Cinematic Frozen Strings - “Tundra First Chairs” (thanks @ism)

    How do you get a violist to play a tremolo harmonic? Write a whole note with the word "SOLO" over it. Thanks folks, I'll be here all week.:whistling:
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    Spitfire Audio: Abbey Road Two - Iconic Strings

    Has anyone tried pairing AR2 with LASS? I think it might be a good match and motivation for me to drop more ducats this year. Spitfire Audio thanks you in advance if it sounds good.
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Strings

    addendum: It will also make you smarter, more creative, and desirable to those you desire.
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    Naughty, naughty. You shouldn't encourage such things. I have both. SCS gives more of a finished/produced smooth string sound. LASS gives more of a raw string sound that can be modified in a variety of ways. Sometimes one is the right choice, and sometimes the other works better. Maybe you...
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    Bernard Herrmann Composer's Toolkist at 30% off

    Glad some of my musical rambles were able to help some of you make a decision. Still one of my favorites for musical inspiration.
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    Spitfire Audio: Abbey Road Two - Iconic Strings

    Friends and family (as well as complete strangers) can purchase a gift voucher from Spitfire and give/email it to you. They have vouchers in several denominations. This is probably how easyrider got his voucher and it is most likely not some super secret giveaway voucher. So, the amount really...
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    Suggestions on Lush String Library

    Point taken. But I still think the other bits are more important than buying more libraries. That does seem to be the popular option when some of the other things are lacking. And I am pointing fingers at no one. This is a truly general comment for any who pass by.
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    Suggestions on Lush String Library

    I may be a heretic, but...... I don't think lush strings has anything to do with the library(s) you use. I don't think it has a lot to do with mixing and mastering. To me, lush strings imply a sophisticated harmonic vocabulary and an equally sophisticated approach to part writing. Henry...
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    I posted in a parallel-ish thread. https://vi-control.net/community/threads/sss-v-lass.118823/ post #18. It is more directly related to LASS 2.5 as far as sound and playabllity. But, it is the same sample pool as LASS 3 with a new wrapper/work space. I think my post on the other thread might...
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    SSS v LASS

    Okay folks, here's the scenario and then the music. Most of the music I have done in the past is destined for live shows. That means some pre-recorded tracks, a live band with 3-12 musicians, singers and dancers. The two following pieces of music were a proof of concept. It would use a small...
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    SSS v LASS

    I'm heading out to the day job now, but I'll drop an example or two tonight and explain my opinion a little bit. But I'm a lover, not a fighter. I try to avoid conflict when possible. talk to you all tonight. ps cheap jedi mind tricks won't work on me.
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    SSS v LASS

    There are a lot of strong opinions on this subject. More words won't change anyone's opinion. I use LASS and like it.
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    SSS v LASS

    I won't go into the good bad and ugly of the shorts, longs and legatos. The sound of each library is the main thing I look for. I work around the warts. I use Spitfire's SCS Pro, Studio Strings Pro, and Aperture Strings when I want a more polished or mastered (smooth?) type of sound. I use LASS...
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    How many people here could verbally list every sample library they own in 5 minutes?

    No. And by the way, you don't own most of them. You've just licensed them from the developer. Yeah, I know. A whole new can of worms to waste words on. New topic? I'll leave now.
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    For those that have actually read all of the above. I use SA Studio Strings Pro and LASS 3. They both have more of a traditional studio sound (not a hall or church). With the SA Studio Series Pro, the additional mics do make a huge difference in the sound you are able to get without further...
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    Ya gotta think BIGGG!
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    Dune 3 Swarm Osc Mode Feature

    For those of you that own REAKTOR, there are some ensembles that can do the swarm thing. Not as many voices, but can get that "vibe" going. And some of those ensembles are pretty cryptic in the control labels. I consider them opportunities for happy accidents.
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    Just a couple of observations from a bystander. The pricing will always be a subject for debate. Only you can determine if the expense is appropriate for you. If you used LASS in the past and never got the sound you wanted, this version won't change your perception. If you used LASS in the...
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    LA Scoring Strings 3

    Sorry, this is a copy and paste from my post (saw that thread first) in the MSS thread which also has references to the "NEW" LASS. I've bought a lot of sample libraries over the past century. We're talking down payment on a nice house and a couple of cars. Oh, the libraries mentioned above...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Strings

    I've bought a lot of sample libraries over the past century. We're talking down payment on a nice house and a couple of cars. Oh, the libraries mentioned above also paid for said house and cars. I'm also one of the guys who has used LASS over the past decades and loved it. This is an insta-buy.
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    Good inexpensive acoustic guitar?

    Breedlove has several nice options as well.
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    What software downloaders must installsplain

    To which the software "gods" reply, "What, you don't have unlimited storage. And you dare to question our decisions where to store files? No sample libraries for you you philistine." All of their labors are to make your life easier and require no brain activity. They know best. :sneaky:
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    Jerry Goldsmith Appreciation Thread

    John Williams War of the Worlds. Made me think of Jerry. Totally brutal use of the orchestra with hardly a synth in sight. One of my favorites. And I have always enjoyed both of them. Great composers that often rose above the level of the film they were presented with and wrote great scores...
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    False Alarm: Tiger the Frog WILL do his Black Friday Post This Year

    You can pick up a little extra cash pretty easily. People will pay good money for any internal organs that you happen to have two of.
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    Spitfire's The Ton Bundle...

    And I'd like to flap my arms and fly around the room. good luck.
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    WATCH IT – Solstice in short

    I like a lot of things about having different mic options. And Spitfire is usually all over that. But..., I try to do all of my writing with the default mic choice (usually tree). By ignoring all the options available I am able to focus on writing. Then once I have a piece of music that is...
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    Are 8dio's Intimate Studio Brass and Fire Brass a good choice for a nice warm brass sound like is heard in Saturday in the Park by Chicago?

    This. https://vi-control.net/community/threads/new-sasaki-trumpet-69-musical-sampling.115854/ The flugel would do a pretty good job sound-wise. Listen to Rain in Spain--A Sapp The sound quality is right in the ballpark. All the other aspects, no idea. "From an ex-trumpet player that had...
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    Hans Zimmer's DUNE

    Could be worse, they might have suggested clarinets and violas.
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    Hans Zimmer's DUNE

    Sorry, didn't mean to sound "all-knowing". Maybe Hans used them because they fit his intent. Clarinets and violas kinda set me off but I still use them. :)
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    Hans Zimmer's DUNE

    Bagpipes were often used when marching off to war. Perhaps they were meant to "stir the blood". Or just possibly to piss them off enough to kill with no mercy. I kinda like them.
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    WATCH IT – Solstice in short

    Your music deserves a second listen. A third and fourth listen is also time well spent. I have several Spitfire libraries. BHCT with the Studio Series (Pro of course, love the mikes) is a favorite of mine that works well with many of their libraries that were recorded in smaller rooms. I also...
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    Iris 2 continuous notes

    Is it just Iris, or other instruments as well? Sometimes you can be doing some editing (copy and paste etc...) and cut off the note off info. That would cause endless notes. Could also happen with a sustain that never got the release. Might be worth checking out your cc lanes. \edit, could...
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    Expired - SCS and SCS Pro 50% off for 24 hours + new customers 50% off Originals

    Short version, no. But. You can cover a lot of ground with the free labs. And the Originals series can also fill a lot of gaps. edit--sorry, this in answer to your unrelated question.
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    WATCH IT – Solstice in short

    A fine job. Good writing with a tool that has a certain "vibe" and you molded it to your intentions. It made me hit replay. That doesn't happen often.
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    How to sound contemporary without synths

    If you like this one, you should also check out his score for War of the Worlds. He uses some absolutely brutal sounding techniques for orchestra. Possibly the best thing I've ever heard him do. And he's not exactly a sloucher.
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    U-he Zebra/ZebraHZ - complete Lemur controller

    Thank you for sharing what was obviously a lot of work. This is the sort of thing that VI-Control was originally all about. thanks again, Steve
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    Jazz upright bass

    Thanks again for taking the time to do this and then explain your thought process. Steve
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    Jazz upright bass

    First, fell in love with Charlie after hearing Better Git It in Your Soul. I love all of the incarnations of his orchestra. Gold star for Eric Dolphy. Really llke your Ample Sound demo/experiment. Questions, 1. Did you need to use a lot of key-switching or play it in one shot? If you did post...
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    When NOT to Buy the Best

    Perhaps best at the moment might be good enough for the next moment also. If not, just add the new best to the cart.
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    "Pulse" (Symphonic Suite)

    Feel free to pass along all of our thanks for helping one of our own. Every moment we have here should be cherished. ps like the new edit with 11:02-09 climax. makes perfect musical sense.
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    "Pulse" (Symphonic Suite)

    Guy, this is truly a beautiful and well crafted composition. It totally deserves being played in a concert hall with living/breathing musicians moving the air in the hall. Thank you for sharing the music in your head and heart. Live long and prosper. Steve
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    Skip music school and buy a few scores?

    But if you don't understand what you are looking at, scores are not terribly useful. I think some kind of education (self taught or academic) might be a pre-requisite for score study. Basic notation, theory and harmony are still necessary. Obvious points, but sometimes it is still necessary to...
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    Should Developers Only Give us "Naked" Demos?

    Yes, I don't buy from those people any more.
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    Should Developers Only Give us "Naked" Demos?

    Concerning orchestral libraries: Naked is good, warts and all. Dressed shows the potential in a finished production, also good. If a library is part of a larger picture, show us the whole picture. Walk-throughs show us the naked sound but are often played in non-idiomatic styles. That, is...
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    Some totally subjective thoughts about some of the larger sample devs - post yours too

    My first sampler was a Korg DSS-1. Had a really nice oboe and a pretty good grand piano. Loaded off of floppy discs and had 2 meg of ram. Since then, I've bought a ridiculous amount of libraries from just about every developer out there. If they produced a useful product, I would buy it and use...
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    Worthwhile UFO show or series?

    When you give up on anything remotely factual, try this. At least it's entertaining. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063962/
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    What's Missing from Orchestral Sample Libraries Today?

    I'm sure this is also a possible good solution. My answer was based on using two sample sets that achieve the desired output volume without taking the room acoustic along for the ride. These are just one of the many situations that make me happy I'm not a developer.
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    What's Missing from Orchestral Sample Libraries Today?

    I think your button is possible. Two sample sets that toggle from one to the other. Two slight problems, double the disc space and probably double the cost. More wails of anguish from the gallery.
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    What's Missing from Orchestral Sample Libraries Today?

    Here's what I think you are asking about. Yes, a trombone could drown out the woodwinds if he felt like it. Developers could put all of the instruments in true perspective, volume and position. But, the cries of anguish and horror from everyone that bought those libraries would be deafening...
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    Looking to listen to compositions members have made using Spitfire Solo Strings

    No. It didn't have the "vibe" I was looking for. I used the Vintage Acoustic from Trilian. Drums were Vintage Drums-ludwig kit from Chocolate Audio. Percs were Damage. Everything else was from Spitfire. Glad you like it.
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    Looking to listen to compositions members have made using Spitfire Solo Strings

    Written with Solo Strings and several other Spitfire libraries.
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    Need Library suggestions...

    Symphobias... Albions... Arks... Ensembles that are semi-complete toolkits. Orch, percs and other curated goodness. Each individual volume could do the job on it's own depending on the brief. Quick and "epic" is the whole point of these libraries.
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    James Newton Howard : Jungle Cruise

    Enjoyed both tracks. JNH always comes through with the goods. On another note, if I listened to this without the header card I wouldn't be suprised if you told me John Williams had written the score. This is a compliment.
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    New Spitfire and Charlie Clouser collab?!

    String Quartet without all the weird room sound and funky vibrato? With boots on?
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    Let's poll the greatest movie of all time

    Okay, if we're going to be ridiculous in some of our nominations, and this is directed at no one person. Dark Star. Dan O'Bannon and John Carpenter. (imdb if you need to). As college students. If you make it to the end you will be a black belt in terrible/great movies. Alcohol and/or the...
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    New Spitfire and Charlie Clouser collab?!

    Charlie, perhaps just an add-on/separate library of midi loops performed by you using the single hits in Hammers. Authentic Charlie Clouser drumming magic with the ability to adjust the loop speeds and substitute different instruments to take it even further. Shoot, I'd buy that just to try in...
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    New Spitfire and Charlie Clouser collab?!

    From one of the videos, "audio performances only" no midi exists.
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    Let's poll the greatest movie of all time

    Touch of Evil. Most incredible opening single camera shot in history.
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    Hans Zimmer’s Dune

    I think it might be wise to listen to the entire soundtrack and possibly even watch the movie before pronouncing judgement on Han's efforts. I liked the two tracks I heard.
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    New Spitfire and Charlie Clouser collab?!

    Kinda like this.
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    Wait to edit until your first draft is done? Or fix big problems as you go?

    What kind of music are you trying to write? Classical, edm, pop, ambient? Each genre will usually employ a different method of construction.
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    Piano Instruments and Controllers - Recommendations for Holiday Sales, 2022?

    Good luck narrowing your search down to a couple of contenders. For each of my musical needs, I'll often open tabs for each of the libraries' web pages side by side and jump from one to the next and close tabs when I find anything that doesn't work for me at that moment. Then I'll listen to the...
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    Piano Instruments and Controllers - Recommendations for Holiday Sales, 2022?

    You might take a look/listen to Chocolate Audio's offerings. Nice variety of pianos and reasonable pricing. Really like their drums as well.
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    Has anyone experienced the supernatural?

    supernatural experience = day after a six pack of Little Kings and a bag of "Sliders".
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    Who is your (musical) hero?

    Breaking cultural borders for me were: Johnny Clegg and Savuka. Peter Gabriel and his many collaborations with "world" musicians. That Marley guy.
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    Where can I find samples of army chants? Like a group of people saying "hut" or some kind of grunt

    Option 1-Record multiple "imperfect" passes yourself with the chants. Hit them with pitch change/formant modification plugins. Option 2-Record multiple "imperfect" passes of the chants performed by multiple semi(or non)-professional friends. If you provide adult beverages you will be supplied...
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    MIC Positions vs Reverberation Effects

    Decca mic, you hear the room. With a big room. more reverb. With an ambient mic in big room, even more reverb. The farther the mic is from the source, the more you will hear the room. Close mics gives you the sharpest transients with the least coloration of the instrument's sound by the room it...
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    MIC Positions vs Reverberation Effects

    Okay, here's my theory on mic positions. Feel free to jump on and tell me how wrong I am. Mic positions have nothing to do with reverbs. In a single project or piece of music I prefer to use libraries recorded in the same room or at least a similar room unless I am trying to create an...
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    Favourite Hardware Poly Synths

    Oberheim Xpander, Roland Super Jupiter. Both long gone.
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    Awkward scores

    Ladyhawke.
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    Underrated Scores

    He does have a fair number of credits (87) with a lot of television and documentaries in recent years. Maybe just a lower profile by sticking with the smaller screen these days.
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    Have the search for realism ruined your creativity?

    Okay, here's the short version. Most of the music we compose functions in one of two ways. 1. The music is the main event. All the warts show. 2. The music is a supporting player. If it's video, singers, dancers or exploding suns, the music is background which gives you much more latitude to...
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    Landforms or Albion Solstice?

    Solstice has a whole bunch of stuff. (melodic/harmonic instruments and beats as well) Landforms has a whole bunch of stuff but no legato. (sucking or otherwise)
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    Which first couple of orchestral libraries for RPG video game scores?

    I might suggest sticking with one developer for now. The work flow and room sound should be similar if not identical and will greatly improve the end result as well as save you many sleepless nights trying to match different libraries. Sorry for the run on sentence.
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    What are you listening to? YES!

    Frank Zappa. Don Ellis. Any and all.
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    Have the search for realism ruined your creativity?

    What kind of music do you want to write? Classic orchestral, neo-classic, world, death metal or something else? The creation process can vary.
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    Which first couple of orchestral libraries for RPG video game scores?

    Spitfire Albions. Iceni = nasty face punch. Solstice = floating faeries that might throw a rave later.
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    CineBrass matching String Library

    I know this seems like an obvious question, but why not CineStrings? It was recorded in the same room, it was produced by a lot of the same people, and the GUI/work flow is the same. It should simplify your life in the future. The only reason I can think of for using another library would be...
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    Spitfire Audio - Albion Solstice

    Yes, be sure and drop your kilts off at the dry cleaners soon.
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    Albion Solstice - Introductory Promo Ends Thursday!

    I like the drier acoustic with the LCO type meanderings. It really sounds nice and is probably an insta-buy for me. But I'm still waiting for the Guy Fawkes Toolkit Professional Edition. The percussion should be dynamite.
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    Spitfire Audio - Albion Solstice

    What does Chris Farley (RIP) have to do with sample libraries?
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    Spitfire Audio - Albion Solstice

    Maybe the new National Lampoon Animal House Toolkit?
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    If you could start all over with sample purchasing?

    So, I'm sticking with my earlier statement. I haven't bought any libraries this year. But I have bought two Mercedes Benz. Both older cars, an '03 CLK 320 coupe and a 2000 E320 4matic. Cash. I'm okay with the libraries I own now. ymmv
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    Lyrics You Misheard

    MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again Oh, no Oh Wait, those are the correct lyrics. :)
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    POLL - Which artwork for RealiWhistle?

    You may have to license this one.:sneaky:
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    Spiral score album incoming...

    This again shows that good tools are helpful, but a true artist can create with anything. I've always gone for black and white images, Ansel Adams being a favorite and in the moving picture world I do have quite a few Bogart and Bacall movies. thanks for sharing again, Steve
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    What are your favorite libraries that did something "Different"

    LASS Full 1. Divisi. 2. Legato doesn't suck. I don't think you said it had to be recent did you?
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    Spiral score album incoming...

    A new thread with your posts from this thread is a great plan. I think it would be a big help to us oldsters as well as the new young guns. It shouldn't get lost if posted in the DAW section and the mods sticky it after you call it complete. A lot of your workflow should be useful in other...
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    Spiral score album incoming...

    Charlie, I need a little time to digest your writings due to the amount of content and detail. I'm sure I'll have a couple of questions for you in the near future. Would you prefer/ be willing to stay in this thread or an open letter in a new thread? Time permitting of course. You have truly...
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    Spiral score album incoming...

    Charlie, thanks for the master class. I'm going to be spending a little/lot of time working my way through your writings on workflow and seeing what works in my world. I think it's going to take me a couple days just to fully digest your posts and then figure out the best way to implement them...
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