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Sorry but that's the old version you've got there. I'm not sure how that's happened, but if you could please contact me via the support button on our website, I'll help you sort it out - thanks!

This shouldn't occur anymore as of v1.7 - does it still occur for you even after updating to v1.7 (or 1.7.1)?

Yes that's intended too - the cellos and basses needed a bit more of a "clunk" between notes as they have that extra "weight" to their sound / playing. Having said that, the effect is still significantly reduced / muted relative to 1.5.

Hi Henrik, Measured tremolo has always operated in this way, and has not changed for v1.7. Measured Tremolo never allowed you to hold a note. It is a scripted articulation that simulates measured tremolo by triggering two notes very close together. The default tempo is 180 bpm, which is quite...

This is a feature, not a bug - this is how CSS operates since v1.7 onwards. I think it's more realistic this way - this topic was covered in a post a few pages ago on this thread I believe, if you look at the conversation between myself and Kubler. If you check his post here: #353 and then my...

Yes, you'll need to recreate those.

Yep, totally understand - I'll ask NI for more details about this. It's the weekend now though, so we'll need to wait a couple of days for an answer. So in the meantime I'll try to do some more research about this myself. What I'm wondering is: if NA installs Kontakt 7 Player when you already...

Yes you'll need to re-do all of the adjustments again I'm afraid, there's no way to preserve them.

That's interesting, I didn't realise that. Just to check, did you click "Update all" or did you specifically click on the update button next to CSS?

Hey everyone, I'll be here all weekend to answer any questions. Starting now. :) Hi @Akarin, yes you'll need to re-load the actual patches themselves. Resetting Kontakt won't get the same result I'm afraid. And just for some general info here - there are two aspects to a Kontakt patch. The...

Hi folks, Just a quick note to let you know that we have released a small update to the latest version of CSS (CSS v1.7). This new update (CSS v1.7.1) fixes a couple of issues present in the new version we released on August 30. If you didn't receive the original update email, please check the...

Hi Kubler, Nice piece, very cool! However, I think this is another example of creating something with v1.5 and then trying to use the same (more or less) MIDI data with v1.7. The main difference between the two versions, as far as this specific passage is concerned, is that v1.5 triggers...

Hi Mark, Thanks for the feedback - I've fixed the legato bumps for the upcoming v1.7.1 update (for both low latency and expressive mode). I encourage you to hold off on rolling back till you try this update - it's nearly ready. Going back to v1.5 and applying an EQ won't give you the same...

Thanks very much for reporting it - I'm narrowing in on what the cause is, shouldn't be too long. Also @holywilly, I'll do my best to re-add the Classic legato patches. It's a bit tricky, but I'll see what I can do. :)

Hi everyone, I just wanted to drop in and provide a brief update on things. Native Access / download issues Firstly, thanks so much to everyone for being so patient while we deal with Native Access issues. I totally understand your frustration, and to cut a long story short, I am looking to...

Hi guys, I'm doing my best to keep up with what's happening here, but I've been distracted by the tech support emails. It's getting kind of tricky to keep up with both at the same time, especially since some users have posted both here while simultaneously opening tech support tickets. That's...

Hey folks, some very nice examples in here, keep it up! Love your mockups, Noam - thanks a lot for posting. :) Guys, I need to stress this point: taking an old piece and subbing out the old patches for the new ones is a misleading comparison. CSS v1.5 will win in all of those cases, hands down...

Hi there, sorry to hear that - just to quickly check, are you saying that CSS does not appear in your list of "Installed products"?

Awesome!! :)

Sorry Simon, I'm still trying to figure this issue out. Quick question - do you have at least 125GB free on your system drive?

Thanks very much for your feedback - I'm glad you like the new legato :) The spiccatos are a bit different now - allow me to explain. In the original version, I had layered them with the Staccatissimo samples playing behind them (at a lower volume), which gave them a bit more of a "hyped"...

Hi there - not to worry, you're definitely downloading the new one - the download is 45GB, because it's slightly compressed. (For peace of mind, the old version was never available via Native Access, so it cannot possibly be the old one)

Hmm, can you PM me a screenshot of what you can see? Also just to clarify, are you looking in the "updates" section? If so, that's not where you download 1.7 - it must be done by right-clicking on CSS and selecting "Reinstall".

That would be very cool but I'd appreciate it if a separate thread could be posted for that, as any cool stuff will likely get swamped by technical questions here - thanks!

That doesn't sound right, if you could please pm me an MP3 example that would be very helpful, I'll see if I can recreate what you're getting.

Ah okay, interesting - perhaps the download is slightly smaller because the library is packed and compressed slightly.

Hmm, where are you seeing "45GB"? Are you referring to the size of the folder after CSS has fully downloaded? After the installation has completeld, the new "Cinematic Studio Strings" folder should be 48GB.

Okay I've heard back from NI. They said: "Hey Alex, They could set the download or content location to different paths in preferences. Often for big libraries I set the download path to an external drive. NI also sent me a link (below) to this page with more info on how to deal with the...

I'm in touch with NI right now about this specific issue - I will report back the second I receive the answer.

Hey everyone, update is live on NA now. Go get it! :) And one last reminder, please backup your original copy!

The standard price is $399. There is no intro price, but once you have CSS all other libraries are 30% off due to our loyalty discount program. Cheers!

Yes that's right - the project won't even load, as you will get many "missing samples" errors. After installing CSS1.7, to open a project, you'll need to: Rename the newly downloaded "Cinematic Studio Strings" folder to "Cinematic Studio Strings new” Rename the "Cinematic Studio Strings...

Oh okay, thanks for the heads up - I'm looking into this with NI and will report back as soon as I hear back from them about this.

No it was just a bit of fun really, but I am planning on creating some new MIDI tutorial material soon, since the previous MIDI files I released for the original version will no longer apply / work properly in v1.7.

Thanks! Hmm, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "actual" version. Just to clarify, are you referring to the new version?

Lol, funny you should say that, one of my testers literally sent this to me overnight: CSS Potter2

No, sorry - just the double mode. I'll add that to the list for a future potential addition. :)

Yep that's right, I use the sustain pedal like it's going out of style.

v1.7 runs on Kontakt 5.8.1 onwards. :)

Yes, vibrato in CSS is continuously adjustable, not just an on/off. The on/off vibrato only applies to solo instruments.

Sorry, but the thought of adding delays, compensation, switches and settings to an already very complex script is truly the stuff of nightmares! So I'm not going to say "absolutely never", but I am going to say "probably never". Sorry about that!

Yep, the delays for Expressive mode are the same as Advanced. Keyswitches are all the same except for the Legato keyswitch - it used to be A#0, but now it's G#0 by default, to line up with CSW. I'll be changing that for CSSS and CSB too for their v1.7 updates. Also just a reminder about the...

That's very kind of you, and I appreciate that sentiment, but honestly, I love what I do, and I find it really satisfying to be able to increase the value of the library without increasing the price. Thanks very much for your support! :)

Yes that's right, there are still multiple speeds in low-latency mode - Medium and Fast. Medium will cover 90% of your phrasing, but every now n then if you need to add a slightly faster phrase, or even an ornament here or there, "fast" comes in handy for that, because it's a little bit more...

No, sorry that just won't work I'm afraid. They each use completely different sample sets (and patches). You'll need to finish off that project first and then move to 1.7 after that (or whenever it's convenient). :)

Yep, you're right, it's around a third bigger now, the installed size has increased from 35GB to 48GB. (Spot mics are both mono btw)

Yes the low-latency mode has less of a delay than the previous "Standard" mode which it replaces, so you'll need to account for that in your delay-compensation settings / scripts.

No, sorry - I should have put this in the release notes (I was going to but totally forgot). The new version requires about 13 more GB than the previous version. v1.7 takes ~48GB after installation, but you actually need ~125GB of free space on your target drive during installation - this is a...

It's not about whether or not it sounds realistic, pitch bending breaks the legato system, so it just doesn't fit into the design of the libraries imo, sorry about that but it's the conclusion I've arrived at. I may create a more dedicated strings fx library in the future - I've had many ideas...

Hi there, no I think this is just a coincidence - I must subconsciously feel like doing that actually makes a difference while I play, but it doesn't. :) The bowed samples all play out in full, regardless of how long or short the MIDI note is.

Yep, totally

No worries - v1.7 will run on Kontakt 5.8.1 :)

Thanks! Yep, hiss is gone. :)

I hear you, but it's just not within the design of the library to have extra controls for pitch bend and so on. As I mentioned earlier, pitch bend "breaks" the whole legato system, so it would just feel out-of-place to me. As Duncan pointed out, you're probably better off using an external app...

Yep, we opted to disable purchases temporarily so we don't get anyone purchasing the original version now, only to have to re-install the new version in another day or two. :)

No, because the whole point is that I wanted v1.7 to completely replace the original version going forward. I've worked on this for 2 years and I'm confident that you won't need or miss the old patches / samples.

I understand that it's not a particularly elegant solution, and I apologise for that, but it's the best solution I could come up with. I did consider various options, but I also figured that eventually folks would finish most of their older projects and spend the majority of their time on newer...

That's right, well actually, the session won't even load, as you will receive "missing samples" errors. Even if you skip past them, and then load the new patches in place of all the old ones, you would then need to do a bunch of tweaking / adjusting just to get it sounding roughly the same in...

Adding pitchbend control to legato transitions will not work properly, as both the "from" and "to" note will be affected by the bend. So you would be limited to using only close mics, with no legato, and fake vibrato, which takes away 90% of the goodness of the library. Don't get me wrong, I...

That's an interesting idea, but I'm afraid I won't be able to add pitch bending to our libraries, as it doesn't fit in with the design, and generally causes more problems than you might think in libraries recorded in a large, ambient space. I did actually look into this about 15 years ago - I...

No, there's no global setting as such, but it certainly has more delay than the shorts. However I think that once you use it for a little while, you'll get used to the way it handles phrases in realtime. Any editing after recording should be pretty minimal, and if you do want to quantise it, I'm...

Hi there, low-latency legato is basically just the same concept as what's already there, except with less delay. I first introduced this in CSW, except I've improved the realism since then, and all of the other libraries (including CSW) will see the same improvements when they get their own...

No, v1.7 is a complete replacement of any / all previous versions. This is why I recommend backing up whatever version you have, in accordance with the instructions on page 1. Thanks!

Hmm that's a good question. Honestly, this is the first library we've released via Native Access, so it's a bit of a learning curve for us too. I know that the process that I've outlined will work, but I can't guarantee the success of your option there, sorry!

The Low Latency mode has less delay than that of the previous version.

There are many subtle yet substantive differences between the original CSS and v1.7. So if you open an old project, and simply swap out the old patches for the new ones, it won't sound right. The new legato mode (low latency mode anyway) has different timing, the short notes have a slightly...

Hey Simon, no no, don't delete! It'll be "live" on August 30 (probably around 10am UTC / GMT)

Thanks! I may record additional articulations in the future, but it won't be until CSPerc is out, not to mention all the updates and so on.

Thanks so much, but no donation required, sir - I'm just really happy to be able to finally share this update with you all. :)

Thanks very much, I appreciate that! In short, yes - the marcato runs share some similarities with the CS2 runs, the trills inserted between notes is one eg, but the CSS version is far more advanced in every other way. The effect is essentially a combination of several things happening at the...

Yep, cool idea - I will look at this at some point, but can't make any guarantees atm.

Sorry but no that's not possible, but I'll add it to the list for a future update. :)

Hi David, I appreciate your situation - sorry but this is the only way I'm afraid. Creating a whole new product in NI would have been much more difficult for us, and I also feel that it would have lead to too much confusion. I expect that people will be happy to move over to the new version once...

I've got a couple of exciting projects in the works at the moment, in addition to completing the updates for the rest of the series. I do fully intend to do more stuff with strings in the future, but I can't really expand on that yet.

Oops forgot to reply the legato part of your question, @Casiquire. Basically, I think that Low Latency legato will handle most of your needs, most of the time. I spent ages on this mode - its aim is to be as playable and realistic as possible, with minimal editing. I personally use it almost...

Thanks! To be honest I'd settle for a summer in which I'm not trapped at home for a month by floodwaters. But I guess that's better than the 2019 bushfire hellscape... sort of? :)

Thanks everyone! I know it's not usual for us to announce something and then leave a few more days till release, but doing it this way gives users a chance to go ahead and back up their exisiting version and so on prior to updating. Thanks! The core sound of each individual mic has not changed...

*** Attention! The new version will be available via Native Access from 10am 30 August (UTC/GMT). Please read this info carefully before installing this update, as the new version of CSS is not compatible with any DAW projects saved prior to updating. To open those projects, you will need to...

I hope everyone's doing okay in these crazy times. I know it's been a long while between posts, but please rest assured that I have been working around the clock on the CSS update ever since I released the woodwinds V.1.3 update. I started working on the CSS runs mode when I was implementing...

Samuel, I've tried helping you, but unfortunately you've ignored my suggestions, while continually posting unhelpful, counterproductive information that wastes everyone's time, including your own. If you could please respond to my support ticket messages, we might be able to work together to...

Thanks guys, appreciate that. Yes from my own testing I couldn't get it to occur on my machines either, it seems it might be something specific to this user. Cheers!

Hi everyone, We're excited to bring you the first update Cinematic Studio Woodwinds - CSW v1.3. This is a substantial update that not only fixes a couple of issues present in the first release but also includes some wonderful new features and improvements to the library. WHAT'S IN IT Firstly...

Hi everyone, I've just had a customer contact me to let me know that Kontakt 6.6 is causing an odd issue with his copy of CSSS. Apparently, the panning and volume dials are not working properly. In his words: "If I load any patch, all the pan controls stay on the far right, and the volume...

Hi folks, sorry that you're having trouble getting through to the website. We're trying to rectify this, it's basically because of the high volume of traffic, but we'll see what we can do. In the meantime I'd recommend waiting for an hour or so while we try to sort it out. Thanks! :)

hmm, it didn't attach Vladimir's GUI pic, I'll try again here:

Hi everyone, you heard it here first. :) CSW is here. No, really, it is! We’re sending out coupons to all of our customers, so please check your spam folder if it’s not in your inbox within the next couple of hours. If it’s not in either of those places, please contact us via the support button...

Hi everyone, Firstly I want to thank everybody for their patience and support. Right up till today we were hoping it might be possible to release CSW before the end of 2020, but I'm afraid we're not going to make it. We tried really hard to get it all ready in time, and it came right down to...

Hi everyone, First things first, woodwinds is NOT released yet. Sorry! Now that that's out of the way, I do follow this thread because let's face it, it's fun and hilarious. I know a number of people are no doubt getting somewhat frustrated with the wait too, and I totally get that. Believe...

Hi all, just a quick update to let you know that NI are working on this as a high priority, thanks for your patience! As soon as I have any news I'll let everyone know here. Thanks :)

This is a strange issue, I've been trying to figure out what's going on here, as it seems that the update has certainly changed some MIDI behaviour. I checked out the list of additions for version 6.4...

Hi Bob, Sorry for any confusion. Previously we had two separate websites: www.cinematicstrings.com for our older library CS2, and www.cinematicstudioseries.com for our newer orchestral series Cinematic Studio Series. However recently we've had to rebuild our website and move it to a new web...

Hi Batrawi, Thanks very much for your kind wishes - these bushfires have been so devastating on such a massive scale. I live in the bush about 1.5hrs northwest of Sydney, and a large fire swept through the area in early December. I'd spent a lot of time preparing the property in the weeks...

Hi everyone, Here's a slightly long yet hopefully useful update on our progress regarding some users experiencing hung notes with CSS / CSB in Logic. We tried to identify the cause by adding a script to Kontakt that monitors all of the MIDI data being sent to Kontakt by Logic. Bear with me...

Hi everyone, This issue has been brought to my attention from time to time over the years. The two problems are: we've never been able to replicate it on our systems, and the users that experience it all report it as being completely random, with no reliable way of causing it. Both of these...

Thanks everyone! @I like music yes we will get to your email asap, but could you please remove the email address from your post, as we prefer people contact us via our support desk. Thanks!

Hi everyone, We've finally made it and we're very excited to announce the next instalment in our Cinematic Studio Series - Cinematic Studio Brass - a stunning package of powerful, realistic brass instruments. CSB is an exciting new step in our quest to provide a detailed, powerful orchestra to...

@JeffvR Glad you like it. :) And yep, the mutes aren't extensive, but they were recorded this time.

Hi folks, Sorry - I realise there are two threads now. I was originally just dropping in to this thread to say hi. I did post more details in the commercial announcement one: https://vi-control.net/community/threads/cinematic-studio-brass-upcoming-release.76830/ We’ll be adding more...

Sorry, $299 for owners of CSSS :)

Thanks everyone, btw - I should've mentioned that for owners of CSS, the price will be $279. We'll be sending out discount coupons as soon as the library is ready for release. @Jediwario1 yep - there's a full ensemble patch too. :)