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    Recommend me some ethnic libraries!

    IMO nothing beats Tarilonte's libraries. You've already mentioned Forest Kingdom II ... I would definitely HIGHLY recommend that for the South American vibes. You may also want to take a look at his recent release "Dark Era" as although it's marketed as being more of an ancient European/viking...
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    Your point is noted, and I agree. I've updated the original post accordingly.
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    You make good some points. In particular I agree that people should strongly consider their unique workflows and preferences when deciding on libraries. However, your post seems to suggest that I'm basing my decision purely on forum feedback, which is not the case. The feedback from the forum is...
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    Thank you everyone for your thoughtful feedback and for voting in the poll. I've decided to go with CSB for the following reasons: (1) Today I reread through the entirety of the CSB and MSB main threads from the point of each respective lib's release (which is ... a lot of reading material)...
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    That is certainly a valid point.
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    Valuable info I hadn't heard before ... thank you. Although direct comparisons between the two libs are interesting and valuable, the relative popularity of the two libs in relation to each other is actually info that I'm keenly interested in as well. After all, if 80% of the forum users end...
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    MSB or CSB? Please vote.

    Which do you prefer? I need a dedicated brass lib (still don't have one) and am having trouble deciding between the two. Main things that appeal to me about Cinematic Studio Brass (CSB): (1) Easy of use/playability (2) I heavily use OT libs and CSS in my template and my untrained ears have...
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    Aiva - Artificial Intelligence Composition: beta starting today

    Honestly, I really hope that they fail miserably. It's bad enough that people can't sit down for a meal without putting their damn phones on the table. Stay the hell away from the arts for the love of god.
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    Ethnic library collection resolution

    @Fermile Not sure why Eduardo Tarilonte's libs are not on that list as IMO (and many others would agree) they are the gold standard in ethnic instruments. Strezov's Balkan Ethnic Orchestra is also excellent for a certain type of ethnic music.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    What I'd possibly like to see even more though is a vocal lib similar to vocal codex, but with more targeted "ethnic" vocal singing styles: middle eastern, indian, chinese, etc. That would be incredible.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    I have no doubt that he will at some point. Personally I'd rather see more of these medieval-focused libraries. I can never possibly get enough. The more the merrier :)
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    @muziksculp I agree about getting Ancient Era Persia before Celtic Era. I would also advise you to take a strong look at Vocal Codex and Forest Kingdom II as well. Both great libraries. Welcome to the enchanted world of Tarilonte's VI's :)
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    @muziksculp As always it depends on your needs and desires for your music, but if you have a general interest in folk/ethnic instruments I would personally suggest ERA II if you could only pick one other Tarilonte library. Although Ancient Era Persia is wonderful, IMO ERA II is the king.
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    A decent Dilruba?

    I've always liked the one in EWQL Silk: http://www.soundsonline.com/silk
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    I only had about 15 minutes to play around with it before heading off to work. First impressions: (1) The percussion is much more extensive than I thought it would be. Some really nice frame drums and stuff like that, which was expected ... but what was unexpected was the large amount of more...
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    Middle Eastern Strings & Articulations

    I think some have made the assumption that you're looking for ensemble strings that can pull off this sound. Is that the case or are you open to solo strings as well?
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    Thank you Eduardo! I'm in love with those pipes. Absolutely brilliant sound. And great job on the new demos :)
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    Does anyone know what that instrument is that starts at 1:14 in the latest demo? Sounds kind of similar to a Viola de Roda ... but with more high frequency content. Whatever it is I really like it.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    I understand your point ... and I agree with what you're saying. My sense is that the vocals and the bowed harps/strings are probably what will set this library apart and give it a flavor that is perhaps not entirely possible with the other ERA-related libs.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    Does the "identity" really matter? If the instruments are compelling and they fit your style of music, then that's the most important thing :) Whether it's called Dark Era or ERA III makes very little difference IMO.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    The video for the lib said that bowed harps are included. The talharpa/jouhikko is considered a bowed harp or lyre ... so even if those instruments exactly are not included, there will be something very similar ;)
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    I think there's a high likelihood that a talharpa/jouhikko will be included.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    Without a doubt ERA II is his best lib. If you can pick up a second one beyond that honestly it really depends on your tastes and needs. If you're looking for vocals, Vocal Codex is wonderful. The Celtia patch there IMO is one of the most beautiful solo vocal VSTs in existence. I get a lot of...
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    Oh trust me I'm not defending Engine vs other samplers. All I'm saying is that in my opinion, the minor inconvenience of dealing with reactivations is a small price to pay to use the libs.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    I can see why you'd be uneasy about that ... but I guess I just see very little actual risk? I'd imagine that the likelihood that Best Service goes out of business is low and furthermore one would hope that even if they did they would find a way to address the licence issue. But to each their own :)
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    Orchestral Tools: OT Sample Player

    The ability to buy single instruments from larger libs would be amazing. I'd love to get the strings and choir from MA4 for instance but have literally no interest in any of the rest of it. It also seems that they are going toward a more loyalty-based pricing system ... almost more analogous to...
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    It's annoying yeah, but spending about 2-5 minutes to reactivate the licenses every few months is IMO a really small price to pay to use his libs.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    IMO staying away from Eduardo's libs due to Engine seems like a really bizarre choice. Sure it's not that great to work with ... but I think people make it out to be much more than what it is.
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    Eduardo Tarilonte DARK ERA

    OH SWEET LORD!!! This literally could not possibly be more tailored to the music I make. Eduardo is a legend and this looks absolutely brilliant!!!! His libraries are the only ones that I purchase without bothering with any kinds of reviews. So pumped.
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    In my admittedly uneducated opinion I second the notion that the sample library market is not that large. I can't really imagine that there are that many composers out there that are willing/able to shell out many hundreds of dollars for sample libs? It's not exactly that common a profession.
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    Well I'm not saying I'll dislike CSB. That seems almost impossible. All I'm saying is if MSB ends up being attractively priced and I've already bought CSB theoretically I might be a bit bitter because it would be nice to have the extensive instruments and functionality that MSB seems like it...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    I'm currently struggling a bit with deciding what to do. I don't think I'm capable enough yet as an orchestral composer to be able to justify spending over 1000 on one library. Part of me (realllly) wants to just get CSB right now but then I worry that they'll release this for like 700-800 and...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    A very interesting and thorough writeup. I realllly can't see it being over 1500 though. I mean perhaps it's "worth" that much based on your hypercube analysis, but the problem is that no one will pay that much money for one lib. If they release it in parts though then that's a different story ...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    I get your point but my thinking is as follows: Given the shear amount of content and apparent "next-gen" functionality of the library on paper, one might expect the price to be very high. As such, as long as it ends up being less than the expected figure, it could still be higher than...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    I don't think this necessarily implies that it will be cheaper than BB. It only implies that it'll be less expensive than what we probably think it's worth ... or should be worth. That being said I do believe it will be cheaper than the aggregate price of all the BB libs. Edit: Out of...
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    @erica-grace @germancomponist Seriously can you guys continue your argument over PM or something? I'm very interested in MSB and it would be nice if this thread continued to be a source for info and discussion about the library instead of a political debate.
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    I'm not laughing at the fact that people from certain countries can't access their site. Rather, I'm laughing at the notion that these relatively minor offenses on vi-control could be the spark that ignites the next world war (like the assassination of the archduke prior to WWI).
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    Audiobro Modern Scoring Brass (MSB)

    This made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
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    Orchestral Tools "groundbreaking" announcements

    Agreed. It feels like they're doing a bit too much in too short a time.
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    Orchestral Tools "groundbreaking" announcements

    This feels so Spitfire-esque.
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    Solo Vocals

    Of the three you mentioned I only own Shevannai. It's a great library but personally I'd suggest you look into ERA: Vocal Codex (also by Eduardo Tarilonte). It has 4 different soloists that have varying degree of quality/robustness/usefulness. The real star of that show is the "Celtia" solist...
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    Best library purchases you ever did?

    ERA: Medieval Legends
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    What Christmas Sales can we expect this year?

    Apologies @Soundhound ... my comment was meant as a joke, which was making light of OT's unexpected, uncharacteristic, and extensive sales of late. That being said, I actually would not be altogether that surprised if they did do this, given the aforementioned unexpected, uncharacteristic, and...
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    I guess it just depends on what kinds of sounds interest different people. To me I do think it all sounds really good ... but I just personally don't see the utility in just about any of the "combo" patches. The strings and the choirs are what seem like they'd be really useful to me. I think...
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    It really is bizarre. They even admitted in the first Ark 4 walkthrough something to the effect of "we know everyone loves our choirs" ...
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    What Christmas Sales can we expect this year?

    All Berlin expansions 50% off. Obvi.
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    On a completely separate note it looks like a lot of people on this forum are not particularly psyched about this lib. If this forum is a representative population of their users (which I actually believe it is, though I could be wrong) then it would appear that their sales of this Ark will fall...
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    Perhaps. And yeah if it's between correcting it or a delay then I probably agree. I'm just saying that if it were my company ... after the mess-up on the first Ark 1 walkthroughs I would have notified the guy of the mistake and before he recorded himself for the Ark 4 walkthrough I would have...
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    Well the thing is it's one thing for it to happen on the walkthroughs for the first Ark let's say, but the fact that the mistake keeps repeating? It would almost make one think that the OT guys are even watching the vids before releasing ... which wouldn't really make any sense. I mean it's not...
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    Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark 4 - Elite Orchestral Forces

    Semi off-topic, but does it drive anyone else nuts the way the guy in the walkthroughs flagrantly mispronounces certain words (i.e. Wagner, Cimbasso, Col Legno)? I know this shouldn't be a huge deal but it makes me cringe. Beyond that though, the same thing happened in prior Ark walkthroughs, so...
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