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    Orchestral Tools "groundbreaking" announcements

    If they are dropping Kontakt I hope they offer a way to replace Kontakts instrument bank in the new version of Capsule that enables patches to be accessed via midi program change on the live stage! I for one never invest in any library who's sounds I can not use in my live rig as much as these...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings attack

    Can any CH Ensemble users out there please tell me how one can slow the attack phase of the samples down as much as one can alter the length of the release using the ADHR in the settings page? Even at 100 the attack makes barely any difference in the ADHR!...? There must be a trick I'm missing...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Absolutely! We are all spoilt for choice in this digital age in terms of "in the box tools". I think this choice is sometimes like the angler who walks into a fishing tackle shop: there's more gear in that Aladins Cave to catch anglers than fish!
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Glad to here from a fellow pro laptop user!... but didn't understand the end of your sentence...?
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Yes! me too! I'm still tempted to snap up the Inspire series before the sale finishes! I realise they have limited articulations and perhaps not as dynamic as the full Berlin Strings/Brass/WWind series but for quick orchestral mockups I think they are a steel especially as I work exclusively on...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Do you use any Orchestral Tools offerings per chance?
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Ah! thanks for your informative reply! ...Oh! Im definitely going to acquire the Solo Strings library- it's astonishingly musical! and probably the Ensemble one too! Cheers!
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Hi there Casiquire, Ben here mentioned that he suspected that Chris Heins libraries were not that easy to play in to get them sounding realistic but he is talking from a non players perspective! As a player yourself I was wondering if you could tell me just how playable the Chris Heins...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    ...well it just goes to show just how far technology has moved on I suppose. Nevertheless it's a lovely composition from your mind! It must have taken you an age to piano roll all of this! I am a keyboard player so I can appreciate how long it would have taken me to score should I have been...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    ...I say this because the very nature of the piece itself sounds like it was written spontaneously.
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    ...I would suggest that he did in fact pretty much play in most of what you hear in so much as the timing and general layout of this piece. Depending on how used he is to actually playing with the performance controls the depth of this initial "performance" layout, all be it section by section...
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    Chris Hein Ensemble Strings, Thoughts On The Legato?

    Oh! my!... This is one of the most lovely pieces of music and needless to say by far the best demonstration of any artificial orchestra I have ever heard. They say a photographer makes the best shot he can with whatever camera he happens to be carrying that day. The same could be said for Ben's...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Hi NoamL, thanks for posting this! been busy on a job, hence my late response to so many thoughtful posts here! I have still not decided what to do! I just discovered the Chris Hein series of libraries which sound very different to Spitfire of course but what they do have is initial velocity...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Thanks for posting this! I appreciate what you are doing here which makes perfect sense for soloing though I am used to using a volume pedal instead!
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    Save up to 63% on orchestral tools

    Well, these are remarkable deals for sure!... BUT they are NOT the main Berlin library content which even on their 40%er last week would still have potentially tallied up well over £3,000 for full orchestra sections and solo instruments which is where I'm still at! I always felt the Inspire...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    ...I ment to say yes! I do use Logic in the studio but Gigperformer live on stage
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    ...They would indeed unless the software was clever enough to ignore the mod wheel movements until it was physically moved to pick up where the initial velocity had started. Having said this, looking at this scenario polyphonically, even if one could encrypt CC1 to only pick up the value where...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    ISM! thank you and NoamL very much for all your info and effort on this! It was a long night last night! and I'm delighted and feel most fortunate to wake up this morning with all your input!... I'm still perplexed at what to do here regarding going for the Spitfire libraries I had intended to...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    ! What cc my pedals send out is set out within the midi zone programming on my Roland A-50 master keyboard (1989 master keyboard !) I can assign them to whatever cc I wish on a patch per patch basis if I want (although I tend to leave them set to volume (CC7) and (CC11) most of the time.
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Yes! I did check this library out some weeks back. It's strange how they chose to implement velocity here yet not on their main libraries.
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Yes! What you say does make sense but at the same time why have I not found a problem with it on other libraries? I guess it is indeed dependent on how they encrypt the midi.... and re the running into possible problems I think Avery pinpointed the problem with his post here:
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Well actually Orchestral Tools and VSL give one the option to choose wether to use initial velocity on all their samples. I actually found an older thread on this site listing quite a few other manufacturers that offer th option too! Obviously one could utilise velocity and CC1 together in...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    I do actually use two Roland EV5 expression pedals regularly!
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    I do see what you mean about the nature of a violins attack but still: what's the problem of using both initial velocity followed by CC1 to then add more volume or less while the keys are still held down?
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Well actually my Kontakt 5 VSL samples don't have this problem! I know Miroslav is well long in the tooth now but that too doesn't have this problem either! I hear you re the scripting and I may very well get into that eventually. However before I do go down that path I'd like to understand more...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Great post! interesting controller! however unfortunately I'm a singer too!
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    I've put my card away now! I was about to acquire SSO (Chamber Strings version), Solo Strings, Spitfire percussion and that OLafur Chamber EVO library! Sonically it all makes sense but with this velocity issue I simply can't work that way, in the studio nor on stage!
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Thanks very much for your input on this! and for testing too! very kind! I guess I'm going to have to find an alternative library- perhaps NI Complete orchestra (is that what it's called?) but in all honesty I'm going to struggle to find anything else that comes anywhere near my love for the...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    I hear you! but I am also potentially investing heavily in a library for performing on stage! and there I certainly don't have hands free to control the volume! I write extremely spontaneously when I'm composing and for that not being able to control the initial level of a chord with my playing...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Hi JohnG! I use a Kronos and old Roland A-50 from my live rig in the studio! I use two foot pedals all the time too! ...perhaps you posted just as I posted my previous message moments ago that explains why I am adverse to using the mod wheel- or more poignantly why I am so gutted I can't use key...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    NoamL ! yes! I agree it can't realistically be overcome! ..I simply don't understand why some libraries insist on omitting key velocity control like this: as I have found myself repeating many times tonight!.. when I play softly I expect an ensemble string pad to respond quietly then if I want...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Yes! that does unfortunately make logical sense too!... maybe this is what Spitfire were hinting at and partly my concern too! I guess it depends on how the Spitfire GUI receives CC1 info, or rather how it encrypts it.
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    It does! I owe you one my friend! thanks so much!
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    NoamL! Thanks very much for reminding me about this trick! It's been a while!.. As I was saying... to bring my confidence back to splashing out tonight on what will be a major investment for me at this time (!) I was wondering if your good self or any other Spitfire library users were also...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Thanks for chiming in! It's not so much knowing how to transcribe velocity into CC1! I know how to do that! It's just that after such a long chat with Spitfire about this they seemed to be implying that even if I was to convert my key velocity values into CC1 ir would somehow disturb how the...
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    Urgent tech info needed before deal closes at spitfire!

    Appealing to all fellow composers! Please forgive me for posting here! but this is related to deals! deals! deals! in the respect that I need some urgent feedback from anyone here in answer to a simple technical issue which is at the moment forcing me to abandon investing heavily in the...
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    Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra samples - too much room baked in?

    Well people, fellow composers! I've been reading all your posts and the ongoing convos with great interest! I thought I'd just inform you all that I have actually decided to plumb for the Chamber Strings version of Spitfires SSO bundle. Reason being they sound more intimate and seem to be more...
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    Of course if ones style is individually strong, and I'm talking about presenting it to film directors not advertising or film trailer projects, it makes sense to use more generic tools to be sure it's the content of what you write that steers a composer to his individual style not the vibe of...
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    for example I steer well clear of any Hanz Zimmer! ...not because I don't think he writes quality music but simply because I want to discover my own style.
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    ... one thing I worry about using these "name composer" libraries is the chance their texture could fall into:"Oh! that's that sample from such and such!" and end up diminishing my own individual orchestral style which is paramount these days to attract work.
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    If you could only use 5 sample libraries?

    Crazy these days isn't it! we simply have way too much choice! Gone are the days where we had far less choice of tools and had to make the best of their limitations! I think this abundance of choice is the other side of that double edged sword that modern technology sharpens to all us composers...
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    ...however this is not really the case here between these two Evo libraries- I think they are too different to say one is a more intimate version of the other- it's more like the Chamber Olafur Evo is more orchestrally conventional in its sonics as MillsMixx says compared to the original that...
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    ...I've been humming and raring over what to buy as well this week while the Spitfire deals are on. I have decided to go for the Chamber version of their SSO bundle for similar reasons that the Symphonic Strings version is not capable of a more intimate sound and that in fact one can make...
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    Olafur: original evo vs chamber evo

    I'm also contemplating adding one of these to my Spitfire orchestral pallet. Have been listening intensely too all the Spitfire demos and videos of both and to my ears the original Olafur evolutions does sound more intimate and much less symphonic than the Chamber one. One could surmise that...
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    Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra samples - too much room baked in?

    Interesting, that's the first time I've heard about this particular trait.
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    Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra samples - too much room baked in?

    That's encouraging!.. After a years deliberation on this I'm pretty much convinced SF is the right move me!
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    Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra samples - too much room baked in?

    HI Alexander! Thanks for chiming in!... I can certainly hear the reverb tails in the close mic positions! In my experience with reverb generally it can be hit and miss wether different reverb tails from different instruments blend well together or not. Sonics here can occasionally clash...
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    Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra samples - too much room baked in?

    I have of course listened extensively to the walkthroughs of this library and others from the Spitfire camp and agree it does sound wonderful right out of the box. However I'm wondering how often it's inherent baked in room ambience that is still very present even when using just the close mic...
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    EastWest Hollywood Orchestra on sale at $372! What's the rub?

    Yes! $372 is certainly a low price even considering the hefty competition between orchestral library manufacturers at this time of year! One thing that is rather perplexing is that my also being a live performer, I can't set up my own HO programs to use within my keyboard rig as Player as yet...
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