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13 Reasons Why Pro Tools is Better

Although I agree with the points in the video, all this guy does is yell and be negative. Not a huge fan of his channel.
 
The guy is all about hard rock. What did you expect? :laugh:
For sure, I have no doubt that he absolutely knows what he's talking about. He just kind of gives me "I've been in this industry since the 80s kid so get off my lawn" vibes. Extra cringe.
 
I don't mind him actually, and I'm generally not one for people shouting in YouTube videos..

It's just the poors complaining about pro tools because they can't afford it that gets old after a while..
 
It's just the poors complaining about pro tools because they can't afford it that gets old after a while..
Almost as bad as the dip shits complaining about the poors. ;)
 
When I first spotted this thread it had nearly 50 views. Now past 1k views.

I noticed yesterday on the Reaper forum someone posted Fricker's video on a thread called "LOL".

Another site I used to frequent (DUC Avid forum) did not seem to have mention of it. Using White Tie's comment, I "can't imagine why".:rolleyes:
 
Your post is utter BS…

I bet you use a Mac? 😂
Haha..I don't actually..but would you believe I was actually going to make the exact same point the other day too, but I couldn't think of how to word it to make it funny..

But it's very true..A lot who would slate pro tools due to a subconscious inferiority complex would probably be the exact same about using mac over PC..
 
Haha..I don't actually..but would you believe I was actually going to make the exact same point the other day too, but I couldn't think of how to word it to make it funny..

But it's very true..A lot who would slate pro tools due to a subconscious inferiority complex would probably be the exact same about using mac over PC..
I don’t think a lot slate pro tools due to a subconscious inferiority complex….

I think they slate it due to it being overpriced tat….

Just like Macs…..

(Discalimer- I can afford both but choose performance and feature set over indoctrinated aesthetics.)

😂
 
Yp, fee days before I downloaded trial version of Cubase and ProTools to see which one should I buy to complement my FL Studio "VSTi".

After two intro courses for each DAW I bought Cubase Pro and uninstalled Pro Tools.
Pro Tools might be an industry standard but boy this DAW is so boring. Also not quite functional or stable on my PC. Had several errors during installation with no online explanation.

Nothing like that on Cubase. Smooth installation and works perfectly "out of the box".
I subscribed to Pro Tools for 12 months for the sum of £7 per month using my EDU status.

Hardly used it….the lack of features made me wince….

Nearly everything was faster and easier to do in other DAWs….

If I was stranded on a desert island with only Protools I’d use it….but with a choice in front of me…why would I settle for mediocrity ? 🤣
 
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I don’t think a lot slate pro tools due to a subconscious inferiority complex….

I think they slate it due to it being overpriced tat….
I honestly think that might be at play..
As for overpriced..in comparison to cubase updates it's a bit more expensive, but not too much..

I actually got cubase due to how amazing it was claimed to be here a couple of years ago, and tbh I ended up selling it a few months later..

Like, really, it's whatever works for you..
But yeah, the way pro tools integrates with the hardware, the app..
It's not the industry standard for nothing..
 
I honestly think that might be at play..
As for overpriced..in comparison to cubase updates it's a bit more expensive, but not too much..

I actually got cubase due to how amazing it was claimed to be here a couple of years ago, and tbh I ended up selling it a few months later..

Like, really, it's whatever works for you..
But yeah, the way pro tools integrates with the hardware, the app..
It's not the industry standard for nothing..
Just imagine if the so called industry reset and started from scratch….do you think the industry would choose PT now?

Its embedded in the industry not out of it being the best….it was THE only solution at the time….

Things have moved on….bigger and better solutions are available….but if using pro tools makes you happy as you feel like a pro and part of the elite group then living your life through this delusion is not harming anyone I guess….😘
 
Avid is the industry standard for movie editing as well. Doesn't mean there aren't far better solutions.
 
"Industry standard" in terms of software marketing is BS. Something might be widely used, but it's not a standard nor a necessary choice. No software, or generally speaking any product, is accepted 100% in any market.
MIDI is an industry standard, wav format, and other widely accepted and ubiquitous protocols, also concepts like wheels on cars, shoes, clothes, those are standard. However, particular implementations of these, particular company products, are not standard.
 
They do the same thing in the 3D world saying 3DS Max is industry standard. I guess Blender is the Reaper of the 3D world lol. The only reason 3DS Max is regarded that way is because they put free copies in schools so by the time students get used to it, some will swear by it. Artists tend to get an intimate attachment to their favorite tools and mediums especially the ones we start out with first. So no need to look at any Pro Tools users sideways.

I think the term "industry standard" have noting to do with talent and creativity...it's just what have the most momentum in that machine where they are afraid of taking chances with new stuff and milk the same cow as long as it delivers the checks. Sadly many artists just go along with it trading love of craft for economic opportunity. The problem is, it's backwards thinking. It is Love of Craft that creates economic opportunity which is lost in today's society who think money is wealth.

If you're a hobbyist none of those industry terms mean anything. Just use the DAW that speaks to your creativity or have a few of them the same way you would collect keyboards and various midi controllers.

EDIT: The video is hilarious btw. I feel bad for Pro Tools users who clicked on that with interest. Especially new users.
 
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I don’t use protools because I’m not a working pro in which case I would probably have to use it at some phase of many projects. I also hate the sub model.

But I see protools as being kind of like MS Office. There are many other spreadsheet and word processor apps out there, many of them more suitable for the vast majority of users, yet ms office is just a standard because it got to the party early and established itself in the business world. Most users don’t have the technical skills or interest in trying to use a competing product even if it supports reading and writing ms office documents because the WYSIWYG doesn’t always translate quite exactly at some point nearly everyone says, “my lawyer is using ms word so I better use it too.”

From what I can see protools has a number of productivity work flows that are designed around decades of in-studio work and keeping things simple without being overly complicated. Most other daws have a lot more wiz bang features that are more interesting for people at home, composers too. But when you enter a real recording studio most of that crap just gets in the way and that is why protools hasn’t evolved into many wiz bang features in my opinion, it has stuck to simple tried and true workflows that work in pro studio environments. For that reason it is in fact an industry standard in larger facilities especially, and goes back decades for having established itself that way, much like ms office. There is the low latency hardware too of course.

It is what it is, it’s not going away. Most composers that have to deal professionally with large studios simply learn to transfer stems into protools at some point in the process because they want to use their favorite daw for the wiz bang composer features and also need to deliver protools stems. I know at least one die hard DP user that recently switched to protools to do the entire songwriting production start to finish primarily because he started working with a lot of different people in more of a writer/producer role and that was the standard daw format he would have to convert each project to protools from dp if he wanted to keep collaborating with everyone effectively. He also cited that he was “sick of all the crashes” in DP but that could have just been him trying to buy into the idea of using protools instead of DP with all its wiz bang features and his personal decades of experience with it. So far he is getting great results from protools and it’s not holding him back at all really, meanwhile he is able to drop projects to other pros that require protools to move ahead in the production line.

As I said I don’t use protools because I’m a hobbyist and also I ban all subscription models personally. But if i started to interact with other pros needing projects in that format I would not hesitate to comply. There is a certain wisdom to sticking with standards in whatever form they are. Or put another way, don’t try to swim up stream.

It’s typical for the reaper rebel crowd to put out witty banter about why everyone should abandon standards and pro working solutions to use their confusing mess of a cult driven daw, notwithstanding the fact it’s an incredibly powerful Swiss Army knife in its own right
 
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As someone who was working in world class studios during the early days of Pro Tools, I was able to observe why it caught on with audio engineers.

Studios already had a pretty good workflow with multitrack recorders in those days; but edits were a slow process that often had to utilize razor blades. Punching in and out was destructive and required impeccable timing. The early success of Pro Tools came from making the edit process faster and easier; but initially, it was too underpowered to replace multitrack tape machines that could provide up to 96 tracks when synced together. As Digidesign developed the application, the company favored hardware solutions over native ones. This enabled higher track counts at lower latencies. In fact, the track counts got so high and the latency was comparable enough to tape that Pro Tools began to replace the multitrack tape recorders that studios had favored for so long. The workflow was certainly faster because you didn't have to wait for tape to rewind, and workflow matters a lot when the studio is billing well over $1,000 per day for its time.

However, none of that would matter if Pro Tools had been buggy and repeatedly crashed. Digidesign (and later Avid) released detailed guidelines with each version of Pro Tools that, if followed, would assure a stable setup; and stability is especially important when tracking ensembles who are being paid union scale for their services. The last thing you want is to spend thousands of dollars while people wait for you to solve a computer problem!

So yes, part of the reason that Pro Tools is entrenched in recording studios is that they got there first; but that's not the whole story. If something were to come along that eclipsed Pro Tools' abilities the way that Pro Tools surpassed razor blades and multitrack tape recorders, then studios would migrate to that platform. In the meantime, Pro Tools will continue to dominate that part of the industry.

Now that doesn't mean that Pro Tools is the best DAW for every scenario. Far from it. Notice how I completely disregarded MIDI in my explanation of why Pro Tools is used in major facilities? Obviously, MIDI is far more important to composers than it is to recording studios. Of course, Pro Tools is much better at MIDI than it used to be; but I don't think anyone would dream of calling it "first in class" in that department. The bottom line is that the best DAW for you is the one that's best for your individual needs. That's why there's room in the marketplace for so many solutions. Each DAW has carved out its own niche and fulfills a particular set of demands.

Best,

Geoff
 
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