Why stop with this industry? What about RULING THE WORLD, for starters?!?Since almost ALL software of any kind is generally not returnable, I would go for no dongle.
The government should regulate this industry in a manner to my liking.
First the VI industry, then the world, then the galaxy, then the universe, then the parallel universes, then the....I'm not sure what comes next? Time?Why stop with this industry? What about RULING THE WORLD, for starters?!?
Where is this coming from?The apparent conflict of statements might easily be explained by Steinberg going to iLok Cloud, whether or not they also support a iLok dongle basis.
I think it was a question of semantics, but as this is not yet resolved, I'm going to delete what I wrote on another forum so that it doesn't potentially spread misinformation if it turns out that Steinberg is NOT going to ANY form of iLok licensing.
Ahh I then misunderstood you.You're barking up the wrong tree; I was in fact trying to explain why it would not be a contradiction of what had been stated, were it to be the case that they're going to iLok, as iLok Cloud is an option (sometimes) and doesn't involve a dongle.
Look further up to see who posted that Steinberg "said" they're going to an iLok. When you actually go to their linked "proof", it evaporates pretty quickly as it isn't even a Steinberg statement that is behind the supposition that they're going to iLok.
Only time will tell.
Thats fine as long as they dont expect an always on connection, my fear is that they do the same as 7th heaven and say "No you don't need a dongle its all cloud based" until you need to be disconnected and then you do need a dongle. Its a get out of jail option for them as they can rightly say you dont need a dongle and been mobile is you choice which means you will have to have a dongle.Steinberg have said they will be going dongle free
I am curious.I would be pretty surprised by that, given that existing iLok tech allows it now.
A part of Steinberg is already dongle free. Iconica is the best example of how friendly customer service can be. I have it installed in my soft eLicenser (machine-based), and it works fine even without Internet.Steinberg have said they will be going dongle free
This!... soft eLicenser (machine-based), and it works fine even without Internet.
But unlike iLok's libraries, if your machine dies you can reactivate your licenses in a new one no matter what. You don't have to do anything beforehand.
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In the end there are 2 things that are not so compatible with each other:This!
I actually thought that Ilok machine based activation works like that, until this weekend when I figured out that it doesn't.
I have an UR44 audio interface from Steinberg which comes with an FX software suite. These effects are also activated with the "soft eLicenser" in a machine based manner. But when you switch to a different computer, you can simply (re-)activate the software on the new machine, without the need to deactivate it in your old computer. When seperating my private stuff like gaming from music related stuff by setting up a new OS on a different harddisk, I actually did this with this FX suite, and it worked without problems.
I wonder why Ilok doesn't use the same activation scheme for machine based licenses.
Of course, with this mechanism, one could abuse this licencing scheme by activating the license on a new computer, but keep using it on the old one (by keeping the old computer offline all the time, i.e. no updates on the software).
But the current implementation (you have to ask the software developers for a new activation key if your disk or machine dies) can be abused as well, in the same manner (i.e. you can say your machine died, even though it didn't, ask for a new key, activate this on a new machine, but keep using the old one; Actually, if they don't deactivate the old license (which the soft eLicenser does as far as I know), this current implementation is even worse, as the computer with the old license is still able to update the software, and doesn't need to be kept offline).
Ben, may I kindly remind you that we already paid for said licenses to use your products. You're just changing the support platform (dongle or cloud) for them. Just a little distinction I felt needed.You can not register licenses to the iLok yet, but you will get free iLok replacement licenses as soon as we finished the transition.
If you set the red marks differently, all is good:Ben, may I kindly remind you that we already paid for said licenses to use your products. You're just changing the support platform (dongle or cloud) for them. Just a little distinction I felt needed.