Even when picking a winner based on originality there is still room to celebrate exceptionally well done versions of the expected approach, and who is to say the Genre they are going for isn't Blockbuster Action?
Spitfire Westworld - Winner Announced!
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Even when picking a winner based on originality there is still room to celebrate exceptionally well done versions of the expected approach, and who is to say the Genre they are going for isn't Blockbuster Action?
jaketanner
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No, i'm sorry but that doesn't make sense.
For a start, the genre is already blockubuster action, and if you are going to pay service to the genre change you do it, at the bit where he changes genres. Otherwise it isn't a genre change is it...: /
..and no, you can't say the winner won because it was amazingly inventive and he dared to think outside the box and then choose a bunch of fairly generic ones (whilst many brilliantly inventive ones go unpicked) as the runners up.
The logic and reasoning behind the 6 they have picked is simply illogical and that is why people are angry.
I agree with you, but that is sort of my point. Spitfire can't have it both ways. They can't say that David's won because it was so amazingly different and unexpected and then pick some fairly generic ones for the runner's up, whilst loads of amazing unique entries sit on the sidelines.
Being different to the point of completely changing the entire emotion and genre of the picture either matters above all, or it doesn't.
This is a really interesting debate, but i am certain that the disconnect between the winner and the runner's up is what is causing the upset. The judges cannot logically back up the decision making disconnect between the two.
paulthomson
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paulthomson
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Michael Antrum
Only the good die young....
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the winner picked by the Westworld people, and not by the Spitfire people who just did the initial filtering ?
l honestly think people are just embarrassing themselves now.
l honestly think people are just embarrassing themselves now.
synthesizerwriter
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Lurkers can follow a forum for years before they join in order to comment...
paulthomson
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I guess the old adage “no good deed goes unpunished” .. but also, I tend to take less notice of critique from people who hurl it anonymously from hastily created accounts.
still - I had fun!!
still - I had fun!!
Indeed. For example someone just posted this in another thread:
If some rule breaking/bending was allowed and they wanted something comedic and entertaining that one ^ is surely a million times more hilarious/different/bold
.Or give the winner a "creativity award" (without skimping on the prizes) and select a winner that composed in context.
Then everybody will be happy.
The amount of people "raging and whining" in this thread is fairly small. Some of us our just debating it and trying to get to the bottom of the rather illogical judging decisions.
A lot of us aren't sure what to "learn" from this. The winner won because it was so "different" and really paid service to the genre change, yet the one of the runner's up was the da vinci code with a few different notes here and there.
Quite honestly, many are a little perplexed.
Michael Stibor
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Serious, non antagonistic question.
Can anyone think of any examples where a professional film score (not a soundtrack song) successfully subverted the expectations of what was shown on screen to the extent that Christian perpetuates is standard practice in the film industry?
I for the life of me cannot. My first thought was maybe Thomas Newman’s score to American Beauty where there was an abundance of ‘ethnic’ instruments used in a score for a film about suburban America, but even then the score still worked in a conventional sense. It was the just the instrumentation that provided the contrast.
Can anyone think of any examples where a professional film score (not a soundtrack song) successfully subverted the expectations of what was shown on screen to the extent that Christian perpetuates is standard practice in the film industry?
I for the life of me cannot. My first thought was maybe Thomas Newman’s score to American Beauty where there was an abundance of ‘ethnic’ instruments used in a score for a film about suburban America, but even then the score still worked in a conventional sense. It was the just the instrumentation that provided the contrast.
poetd
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As did many others.
This is just the internet doing what it has been taught to do best lately.
I remember as soon as the Comp was announced there were knves out - people ready to be offended at the very first opportunity.
Just how things are. Don't eat yourselves up over it.
Michael Antrum
Only the good die young....
Yep, tell the director that he’s a stupid idiot with no taste - that’ll work.....I’m sure he’ll apologise and come round to your way of thinking......
Cathbad
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Sign up time has no bearing on whether what he says has merit or not.
Why not address what he wrote, instead of making an ad hominem attack? There's some confusion about the judging process that you could perhaps shed light on.
pawelmorytko
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It's a shame because I know you only had good intentions in mind when making this competition, something that should have brought the community together, but has unfortunately divided it completely.
Mat
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Something I've learned wholeheartedly from working in a community-interacting business: Outcrying community is useful for a sanity-check, but can only really be considered as a vocal minority. Unless the goals of your company are to cater only to a specific community, taking too much stock in the wishes of an opinionated online community will hamper your ability to create compelling content or push the industry forward.
That's a pretentious way of saying - Good on ya, @paulthomson. The competition was admirably run, and the results are both fantastic and inspiring.
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