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New Spitfire Strings incoming.

James H said:
I think I found 179 BBC SO owners on the Aperture YouTube video :)

... or 130 potential BBC SO owners. Depends how you look at your glass

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That says it all about how many are probably upset about what they have done with the aperture strings and recent bbcso buyers. Like I said before, a great way for spitfire to upset recent buyers of the BBCSO.
 
thesteelydane said:
Not in Vol. 1, no, only textures and shorts that you control the volume and density of by changing the number of players, so the exact same concept. I take this whole thing as a validation of my idea, really. Vol. 2 will be out soon, and contains more sustain like textures, all bowed, but no straight up longs, everything has some textural life in it. I personally find sampling the most interesting when used to do things that can't be done in real life (hence this idea), and I'm also trying to only record articulations that hasn't been done to death already.

I actually did offer you a free review copy of Vol. 1, but never heard back from you ;)

Cheers,
Nico
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You did? send me a DM here.

-DJ
 
mralmostpopular said:
For me, it just seems like such a bizzare business decision to make it exclusive. If they put it out there for $30 like Epic Strings and gave it away for free with a $349+ purchase, I think there would be a lot less grumbling. However, essentially saying “you can’t have it” to a group that just spent a good deal of money on one of your biggest releases in the last couple of years doesn’t build good will. I don’t think most people are really upset about a sample library equivalent of a toy. It’s more the way Spitfire is going about it.
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I agree completely.

This sales tactic seems to be counter to the sense of community they are otherwise doing an excellent job of creating.
 
I don't really see the issue though, the "problem" is that BBSCO, BF and the supposed Christmas wishlist sale are so close to each other that Spitfire's BF offers wouldn't be exactly tempting without something like this.

You got BBCSO on launch? You got it for relatively cheap, and it's not like Aperture is even designed to play especially nice with BBCSO. You were holding off for the wishlist sale? Well, now you can choose between -40% off, or -25% off with the new string library thrown in the mix.

I'm on the latter camp, was considering picking up SCS on the wishlist sale, but at -25% it would be 100€-ish more expensive so it's a question of deciding if Aperture is worth that for me :v
 
mralmostpopular said:
It says on the website that it will be offered at the intro price.

I’m a little back and forth on this, and can see both sides. On one hand, we don’t have anything less than we had before. Had they never introduced this library, no one would have felt cheated. On the other hand, it’s incredibly odd to offer a better deal than pre-order only weeks later. It will likely boost sales for BF, but possibly at the expense of some possibly long-time customers. The Apple analogy falls apart because they didn’t offer anything exclusive (you can’t get this library outside of the sale), and that they’re the only game in town if you’re Mac-based (e.g. Logic user).

For me, it just seems like such a bizzare business decision to make it exclusive. If they put it out there for $30 like Epic Strings and gave it away for free with a $349+ purchase, I think there would be a lot less grumbling. However, essentially saying “you can’t have it” to a group that just spent a good deal of money on one of your biggest releases in the last couple of years doesn’t build good will. I don’t think most people are really upset about a sample library equivalent of a toy. It’s more the way Spitfire is going about it.

My thought when I tried the library was that I probably wouldn’t get much use out of it. That still stands.
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I completely agree with this as well.
 
cqd said:
Maybe the sense of community is just a sales tactic too..
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Haha. :)

Perhaps, but I genuinely didn’t get that impression before the Aperture announcement. I love their YouTube videos and tutorials, and The Page. But you are correct, ultimately it’s about business and this is a reminder of that.
 
I think the issue is the "buy in" price - the £299 spend required.
It puts the library out of reach of budget conscious buyers - but also Spitfire's best customers, who probably already owning what they want, have to fill a shopping cart just to get the library.

Despite not really needing or wanting the library, some folk don't like being told they "can't" have something, especially when a collector culture is so prevalent in our little world.

I'm sure Spitfire have looked at the figures and worked things out intelligently but perhaps another way would be to give it away with *any* purchase over Black Friday. Everyone would rush in on the new Epic Strings and (most) folk wouldn't have cause for complain. I dunno. Maybe the development time spent means SF want a solid return on the product.

FWIW, I take the view it's just life. There's always a better deal. But I was certain that it would only be Grumpy Old VIC that would have an issue with the offer, but discontent seems to be spreading across Spitfire's social channels.

It's a bit of a pickle. <Random musings end.>
 
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This is how this thread reads to me. :P


You see your present with your name on it. It doesn't even fit under the tree. It's huge! You only had one thing on your list. This will be the most epic Christmas ever. You open the giant box. Your overcome with tears of joy.

"Oh wow! Power Wheels! Thanks Santa! I can't wait to drive this all over the neighborhood!"

Two minutes later your brother Timmy opens small gift of a He-Man action figure.

"Hey! I wanted one of those... I hate Christmas. The Mattel marketing team that ran all those commercials on red Corvette Power Wheels undermined me. I didn't know Mattel was releasing a new He-Man action figure. I should have got one of those too, just because I got the Power Wheels."
 
dozicusmaximus said:
This is how this thread reads to me. :P


You see your present with your name on it. It doesn't even fit under the tree. It's huge! You only had one thing on your list. This will be the most epic Christmas ever. You open the giant box. Your overcome with tears of joy.

"Oh wow! Power Wheels! Thanks Santa! I can't wait to drive this all over the neighborhood!"

Two minutes later your brother Timmy opens small gift of a He-Man action figure.

"Hey! I wanted one of those... I hate Christmas. The Mattel marketing team that ran all those commercials on red Corvette Power Wheels undermined me. I didn't know Mattel was releasing a new He-Man action figure. I should have got one of those too, just because I got the Power Wheels."
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More like you got a big present and your brother got the same big present and something extra, just because the day the present was bought on is different.

-DJ
 
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