Amen.
30+ years of sampling and sample hoarding = drums and percussion libraries of 5.2tb as of today.
And more on the way. It never ends!
since this has turned to a discussion of just drum samples....how we use what we like, etc...I haven't released music in probably 15 years (other than quickie funs stuff) with sequenced drums--which I just say for context--not judgement. I can do it well, but it takes WAY too long if you want it to sound like a drummer playing. WAY....too long. So--I just hire a drummer. So, I use whatever drum samples when I make a writing demo of a new song/idea.
Wouldn't be too rare for a metal drummer to have three different crashes, but the one to the far right seems to be another larger China. Some metal drummers will also have two hi-hats, with the extra one being permanently closed and often located over by the floor tom.I'm having trouble telling all the different cymbals apart. Going clockwise around him, are these the following?
highhat
crash
china splash
another crash?
splash
crash
china
ride
yet another crash?
Holy shit!
I found this thread because I was trying to roughly approximate a drumkit from an album and as a non-drummer I was feeling a bit lost. This is the kit/album (though I don't know for sure he plays the same setup live as on the album, but it sounds close enough to me):
I'm having trouble telling all the different cymbals apart. Going clockwise around him, are these the following?
highhat
crash
china splash
another crash?
splash
crash
china
ride
yet another crash?
As you can tell I'm pretty clueless. Where should I start looking to puzzle together a kit like that from the libraries that I have? I'm trying not to be a sample hoarder and rather get better control over bending the stuff that I have into shape.
I have Komplete 10 ultimate (and 11 regular), Kvlt Drums and Drummica.
So far I was using the Studio Drummer "Garage Kit" and I'm mostly liking the sound and available articulations, but I don't like that I can't pan the individual cymbals and have too few different toms and cymbals available.
Any ideas which of all those kits (that I all don't know well and mostly never used before) that I have, would be a better starting point or how I could combine them in a sensible way?
Wouldn't be too rare for a metal drummer to have three different crashes, but the one to the far right seems to be another larger China. Some metal drummers will also have two hi-hats, with the extra one being permanently closed and often located over by the floor tom.
Borrowing extra cymbals from other kits is not easy if you want it to sound like everything's in one room and miked with the same mics, but might be easier than finding a kit that really was sampled with that many cymbals in that config. You can pan them where they need to be, maybe pitch an extra crash up a little bit to make it sound different from your normal crash... If you need an extra China, SM Drums has a decently sampled one for free.
You can probably get "close enough for metal" results by sending everything to an IR reverb channel to fake an extra room mic. Compressing the fake room mic heavily after taking out its low frequencies might be a good idea too, it'll make things sound more metal and also possibly help cover up any weirdness with their panning or "real" room.
I bought Kvlt Drums to support the creation of niche blackmetal VIs. It is just a vst plugin, not a Kontakt library. The sound is a too raw for my personal taste but I thought I might eventually want to use it to make one of those "intentionally bad" tracks. Might be cathartic after spending too much time in the mixing and mastering rabbithole, I just bought Ozone 8 Advanced.wasn't there a kvlt drums kontakt library? moar kvlt than mgla! it's right in the name?!
What daw do you use?
I was aware of GGD, but never looked closely at their products because I thought they were aimed at the djent crowd and frankly I haven't spent much time thinking about drums in general yet. Just starting really.There's actually a few decent metal oriented kontakt libraries, with getgooddrums/the nerds from periphery making some decenty entries.
stimatized is pretty good too.
just for what it's worth it has a "raw" version of the kit that's got less processing.
as far as GGD stuiff goes, I think they are all kontakt
Wasn't there a song about that in the early 90s?