Geoff Grace
Senior Member
Perhaps this is what you mean by "playable?"
Best,
Geoff
Best,
Geoff
If you have SE 1+2 go for the upgrade to the synchronized versions. It cost you almost nothing, you get an orchestra ready to use with reverb and panning + a great piano. And if you don't like the library you have 30 days to return it and get your money back.
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I have used Masse occasionally but find it much less workable as a sketching library than Albion One. I find the woodwinds in Albion One to be excellent as ensemble patches (longs, shorts, and legato). The brass I'm less happy with and I will use Masse occasionally if I want the full ensemble in a single patch. But for the most part I don't like the sound of Masse as just a basic brass or winds patch.YMMV, but Albion One's pads just aren't that playable in my opinion. Both OT Inspire and SF Masse seem much better if you're trying to lay down some realistic ensemble backgrounds.
As far as what I like to write, that's a very good question. I honestly have very little clue. I like most styles of music and would be as happy writing a bluegrass song as a symphony. At the moment I gravitate towards the cinematic 'epic' style. You probably never heard anyone say he likes Two Steps from Hell's stuff That also fits in nicely with, for instance, the orchestra-enhanced Symphony X-style prog metal.You could also check out Berlin Inspire; similar price range and top notch quality. Albion is attractive though because you get some great synth patches. What sort of music do you like to write?
You can't get Masse without buying the whole SSO which is out of the price range of the OP.The Orchestra was originally designed and recorded with rhythmic arpeggiation in mind. Perhaps it isn't too surprising that the shorts often sound better than the longs when exposed. It's reasonably versatile, but definitely feels more oriented towards andante or faster work to me.
YMMV, but Albion One's pads just aren't that playable in my opinion. Both OT Inspire and SF Masse seem much better if you're trying to lay down some realistic ensemble backgrounds.
I actually think VSL makes the most playable VIs out there, generally speaking. Once you're used to their performance legato and articulation switching, it's a really fantastic platform for performance and can create very realistic sounding results, at least to my tin ears. Personally, I think VI Pro is better than the Synchron Player, but not without MIR or MIRx.
You can't get Masse without buying the whole SSO which is out of the price range of the OP.
The problem I find with ensemble patches, especially for strings, is that it is very easy to make them sound synthy. I find Albion One's strings very synth sounding. Others may disagree.
If you are happy with the new VSL stuff, I would stick with that. At least until something is on sale. Most of these orchestras go down to sometimes 50% off (or more in the case of EW) and you can get some great deals if you keep an eye out. Also gives you more time to look through some walk-throughs. None of them are perfect. But you might be able to get a couple good ones for your $500 that together are almost perfect.
For playble orchestral libraries, you should definitely check out Musical Sampling and Performance Samples. For epic cinematic music, Trailer Strings and Brass are really good. Caspian Brass is another option and Oceania is a great sounding playble choir library.
As far as what I like to write, that's a very good question. I honestly have very little clue. I like most styles of music and would be as happy writing a bluegrass song as a symphony. At the moment I gravitate towards the cinematic 'epic' style. You probably never heard anyone say he likes Two Steps from Hell's stuff
Well, it's weird to attach a price to it if it is only available as a free add-on. When I looked at the SF site after you mentioned this, I also thought that SF must have changed policy.Wow, you're totally right about Masse. I've been mistaken about this because I saw it already logged in, but seeing it without being logged in now I see it still is unavailable. My apologies, jbuhler, about being wrong about that in a different post.
Maybe look at Amadeus Symphonic Orchestra. It's what I'm considering getting. Costs 150, but sounds very nice and consistent from what I heard.
It also has "Symphony" patches which are kind of all in one whole orchestra or orchestra+ choir, etc. patches mapped out throughout the keyboard.
No true legato is the only con I think off, I have honestly not seen any cons outside of that being mentioned for this library.
This! I had it on my WishList and got upset they didn't give me a coupon code for it. That's when I found out you need SSO and it is Free with SSO. So why they put a price tag on it makes no sense.Well, it's weird to attach a price to it if it is only available as a free add-on. When I looked at the SF site after you mentioned this, I also thought that SF must have changed policy.
These are really great but they are only good for certain sounds. Though I really am looking forward to playing more with the Soaring Strings I just got last week!Adventure Brass + Adventure Strings.