chlady
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Yes I wouldn't think would sound very smooth either.You could always try hacking it with non-vib articulation and pitch bend, but that's probably not gonna sound exceptionally well...
Yes I wouldn't think would sound very smooth either.You could always try hacking it with non-vib articulation and pitch bend, but that's probably not gonna sound exceptionally well...
This is my biggest problem with the library. Vibrato is either off or over the top. I love the tone and concept but I will need another solo violin library additionally for gentler vib.Thanks for the quick reply , Thats what I figured but thought I would ask anyway. For most things the vibrato will be fine given that it is very emotional. If I need something less for vibrato I do have some other solo violin libs I can also use.
Any vst violin will have pros and cons.... and if you need another for that then use that one, whilst knowing you will run into its limitations too.This is my biggest problem with the library. Vibrato is either off or over the top. I love the tone and concept but I will need another solo violin library additionally for gentler vib.
This is my biggest problem with the library. Vibrato is either off or over the top. I love the tone and concept but I will need another solo violin library additionally for gentler vib.
Well put as far as I am concerned.The way I approach sample libraries in general is to try not to make them something they are not. If I need a line to blend in with a restrained chamber section, I won't be picking Bohemian. But if I need something really emotive and human front and centre, there's no other game in town.
though I suspect Ondrej would be institutionalised on the way which could further hold up the 2035 relase of EXP 9.
So from what many are saying, this is the equivalent to the Tina Guo Cello where it's way too much vibrato and expression to be used for anything but super emotional passages. I think if one is to create a huge library like this, it would be in their best interest to record at least 2-3 different vibrato intensities...still live performances, but at least we have the option of loading which vibrato intensity we need, instead of being stuck. Granted it's a lot to do, and probably costly, but there is no reason I see that it couldn't be an expansion set like other libraries have. You have the main heavy vibrato library, then at a later time, they can release the additional vibrato samples as expansions and CHARGE people if they want it. Not everything has to be free...although not complaining here, just saying; if there's a will, there's a way.
I look at it like this: If I have to buy more than one violin library to cover different emotions, I'd rather spend the money to get an expansion and keep the sound the same.
I would not say that is a fair assumption, there are many varieties of Vibrato depending on what is being played. With us the vibrato is phrase based, depending on where you are in the phrase and what you are playing and having 56k samples actually really helps this. Lower dynamics have gentler vibrato, Full legatos have different vibrato to 1/2 legatos and different again to 1/4 legatos as well as their dynamic related differences, if onbow or bow changed ... , mid arcs and arcs have progressive vibrato, sustains have immediate vibrato, diminuendos have diminishing vibrato and I could go on, but most importantly, all our vibrato is in Phrase as the Violinist would play it making it sound natural and lyrical. We are capturing the Performer and how they would approach the phrase That is the main aim.
So it’s a dynamic vibrato based off what you are playing?
Well said, Guy. I’m guilty of doing this...The way I approach sample libraries in general is to try not to make them something they are not.
It is like you said. Tina Guo sounds too expressive to you. The point is, it means that CineSample guys did their job right.
TG may well be a one trick pony (at least it was initially, with the expansion I don't think it's a one trick pony), but Bohemian is not.
Yes I have Tina vol 1 which was ok at the time when I got it but I never use it any more as Bohemian is my go to now for an expressive solo cello but it also offers much more as well. Bohemian is also very playable right out of the box, I can't say say that for many other violins and cellos as they always need quite a bit of tweaking .Now I can't wait for the next update of the Bohemian cello.Yes I agree. I think I eluded to that. And even with the Vol 2 for Tina, I don’t find it much better. All it did is add additional articulations, but the slow legato is still only in Vol 1.
Everything is up to date. The loading time is very long and it takes many minutes for the message to disappear, either in Falcon or UVI workstation latest versions.Hi Ryan Please update UVI to the newest version and please make sure that the plugin is connected to your audio. The only time UVI GUI will not respond is if it is not connected to audio. To check if it is audio connection please click effects tab in UVI and then back to edit. If the DAW is causing an issue this should fix it. If the issue persist please contact our support and we can investigate your exact setup and assist you further
Sorry to stick my oar in as I'm not overly qualified to deal with tech support but are you streaming from SSD? And are your settings in UVI workstation set to take advantage of that? I don't have Falcon but expect it would have something similar for streaming from SSD.Everything is up to date. The loading time is very long and it takes many minutes for the message to disappear, either in Falcon or UVI workstation latest versions.
This is my biggest problem with the library. Vibrato is either off or over the top. I love the tone and concept but I will need another solo violin library additionally for gentler vib.